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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
R
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
F
Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
Hardware
Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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🎉 My very first MSR controller: OpenSprinkler
therealdbT
Since today is my birthday - and I still pretend to be unconventional - I'm giving away a present to this wonderful community and I'm releasing my first OpenSprinkler controller for MSR. It was real fun to code it - and while it's still WIP, it seems to work OK for me. It's polling-based at the moment, but I'll add support for updates via MQTT very soon (it's already partially coded). Get it at (install is similar to MQTTController and such): https://github.com/dbochicchio/reactor-opensprinkler Feel free to try it. It's beta software, but it's stable. I'll update it weekly until all the tasks from my todo list are empty. Since I've learnt a lot from this controller, I'll explore new controllers soon.
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Advice reqeusted to migrate MSR from Bare Metal to Container
T
Good day all, I'm in the process of trying to shut down my 10 year old Linux home server that served many purposes, but primarily it's what I used for my NAS/Plex Media server. I migrated the NAS aspect of the server in November of last year to a true NAS solution (Ubiquti UNAS Pro), which is rack mount and much more efficient than my old tower, which it's only side benefit was heating my home office during the winter. Unfortunately it also means heating my home office during the summer, which were about to be in full swing. I have two things running on this 10 year old server at this point. MSR and pi-hole. I'm running Plex Media Server on Fedora Workstation in Podman on mini PC, which is much more energy efficient than my old tower. My next step is to migrate MSR. I know there are images of MSR out there, and creating it is well documented. I'm going to be using Podman instead of Docker for various reasons, but they work very similar. What I don't know, is what I need to do to migrate my existing Bare Metal installation over to a container. Has anyone done this? Any advice?
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Z-Wave Future....
DesTD
https://forum.z-wave.me/viewtopic.php?f=3417&t=36140 That's not a good thing I think Time to switch again?
Z-Wave.me
Can´t restart or upgrade/deploy MSR
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[Solved] Limit HA Entity in MSR
wmarcolinW
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Disaster recovery and virtualisation
CatmanV2C
Following on from my last thread, some progress has been made over the weekend. With 18G of spanky RAM in my Synology DS224+. I've jumped into the murky world of virtualisation and already eliminated the need for two Raspberry Pi's from my system. Home Assistant: In theory they provide an OVA file which is supported by the Synology. I couldn't get it to work, however, so grabbed a copy of the .img file they supply, renamed it .iso and imported it as a VM. Restored from my full back up and that all seems fantastic. Minidnla Music server: Trivial. Grabbed a Debian .iso for Bookworm and copied that onto the NAS. Created a new machine which mirrored the specs of the Raspberry Pi, booted from the ISO then did an expert install. Once that was all stable with a basic core of stuff and networking, I've made a copy of that as a good base system. Then fired up minidnla on it, mounted my media and that's also woking. Not bad for a short weekend's work. Still not sure about the main NUC though. I'm thinking of buying a new USB stick so I can mess around getting it working on the Synology before I do anything drastic. Once that hurdle is sorted I'm torn between: Using a brand new install of Bookworm, re-installing Z-way server, OpenLuup, AltUI, MSR and HA bridge, then restoring across or Making an ISO of the current system, importing that and upgrading in place (which will be pretty risk free since I can snapshot everything before I make any changes.) Decisions, decisions. C
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Remote access of Zwave stick from Z-wave server
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Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
R
Hi guys, Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular. Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets. I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.
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Moving MSR from a QNAP container to RP 5 - some issues
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  • MQTTController configuration with multiple topics per entity
    M mgvra

    Hi,
    This post is a kind of feature request and a question at the same time.
    I've just recently started to play with the MSR, thanks to friend of mine @tunnus
    who recommended to try it out. So bear with me if I'm asking trivial or stupid questions.

    Some background information of my setup

    I have a KNX bus as a hardware backbone which I'm accessing through my own KNXNet/IP protocol stack implementation. On top of that I have NodeJS based dockerized microservices which are communicating using the MQTT. Since I'm still lacking a good rule engine, I've decided to try the MSR, and so far everything is looking pretty promising.

    MSR version: latest-22274-24dfd72c (tested on Ubuntu but will eventually run on RPi 4)
    MQTTController version: 22260

    So what is the problem then?

    Having well over 100 entities (62 relays alone) definitely means that I have to go with the entity template configuration. I've already succesfully POCed some simple binary and value sensors, e.g. entities that provide only state changes and are so to speak read-only. These are working just fine, but the problem lies within the switches and generally speaking
    entities that have actions.

    Screenshot from 2022-10-08 13-11-28.png

    But let me first explain how I do the MQTT topic mapping for the KNX group addresses, which are basically unique identifiers for the attributes and functions of the KNX devices.

    For example a motion sensor has a single group address, let's say 0/6/0,
    for which we the following MQTT topics:

    For status updates: /knx/0-6-0/status
    And for the read operation: /knx/0-6-0/read

    The group address 0/6/0 is formatted as 0-6-0 since it would clash with the MQTT topic.

    motion-sensors.png knx-devices-ok.png

    The problem arises with swiches and gets even worse with dimmable lights.

    In the KNX world we have separate group addresses for the statuses and for the write operations.

    For example a simple switch would have a setup like this:

    0/0/55 write (toggle on/off)
    0/0/56 status (current status, can be also used to read the status)

    And for the dimmable light we may have:

    0/0/3 write (toggle on/off)
    0/0/4 write (absolute dimming value)
    0/0/5 write (relative dimming value)
    0/0/6 status (current status, can be also used to read the status)

    Now these would map to MQTT topics like this:

    knx/0-0-55/write
    knx/0-0-56/read
    knx/0-0-56/status

    knx/0-0-3/write
    knx/0-0-4/write
    knx/0-0-5/write
    knx/0-0-6/status
    knx/0-0-6/read

    And there lies the problem. Since the MQTTController configration is only interpolating the %topic% variable, it's not possible to pass those additional 'write' topics into the template.

    knx-switch-definition-problem.png

    knx-switch-nok.png

    I've tried to get my head around this and didn't find any easy solution. One that crossed mind was the possibility to interpolate all the entity's config keys into the template.

    I'm open to all suggestions since I would love get on writing the rules and logic with the MSR. Anyway, keep up the good work @toggledbits !

    br,
    mgvra

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  • Rule's sustain / delay reset etc. value parameterization thru entities
    M mgvra

    Some background
    I have two simple rules that will toggle my carport's down lights depending on outdoor brightness when I open the motorized sliding gate. I.e. if the brightness is 1500 lux or less and the gate is opened, the down lights will be switched on, and when the gate is closed, the lights will switch off after 3 minutes. Pretty simple 'coming home' functionality so to speak.

    Here's the switch off rule showing the 'hard coded' thresholds

    Screenshot from 2023-10-31 18-44-46.png

    The problem
    I would like to parameterize the lux and switch off delay using entities. I bet the lux threshold can be done with local expressions the same way I do my WC background music scheduling:

    weekdays_enabled = (time() >= time(getEntity( "mqtt>wc-music-weekdays-enable" ).attributes.string_sensor.value )) && (time() <= time(getEntity( "mqtt>wc-music-weekdays-disable" ).attributes.string_sensor.value ))
    

    But the since I'm using the Condition must be sustained for functionality for the switch off rule, I have no idea how to parameterize that with some entity value.

    So my question is that is it even possible to do this using entities or could there some other way to accomplish the same functionality? In this example it's the sustain -value but I might need same kind of parameterization for the delay reset also.

    I have to go with entities, since my own HA system will provide the threshold values for the MSR through the MQTTController.

    Help would be appreciated @toggledbits
    br,
    mgvra

    MSR latest-23302-b7def56a and MQTTController [0.1.23254]

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  • Rule's sustain / delay reset etc. value parameterization thru entities
    M mgvra

    Thanks for your quick reply!

    You can use expressions in condition operands by using the substitution syntax: ${{ your-expression }}

    I'll use that for the brightness threshold.

    The workaround is to group conditions and use additional conditions as gating criteria. For example, if you would change the "sustained for" delay based on time of day, say 120 for day and 600 for night, then you would have conditions structured like this:

    Group A - Daytime -- AND group
        Rule Condition: Rule "Is Day" is TRUE
        Entity Condition: some entity test that tests a value
            condition option: Sustained for 120 seconds
    Group B - Night -- AND group
        Rule Condition: Rule "Is Day" is FALSE
        Entity Condition: the same test as used in group A
            condition option: Sustained for 600 seconds
    

    Well unfortunately this doesn't help much if I need to set an arbitrary delay value from my custom UI.

    You cannot use expression substitution in the values of condition options. These are required to be constants (literal values).

    Could this be a new feature request to support expression substitution in timeout values (sustain / delay reset etc) if it's feasible to implement?

    br,
    mgvra

    Multi-System Reactor

  • case statement with a single when clause fails
    M mgvra

    A case with only a single when (and possibly an else) is an if statement, so why not use that? This is the workaround/recommendation. Using case in this way just seems unnecessarily complex

    Well that's true and I don't think anyone uses the case-when structure with a single when. But for example in my case, I was testing the expressions, had written only one section and was getting this mysterious syntax error. As a software engineer myself, coming from C / Java / JS background, I naturally associated the case-when structure to switch-case where it's perfectly fine to have a single case, although as you mentioned, does not make much sense.

    This is not a bug that needs to be necessarily fixed ASAP, but it would be nice if you could add a clarification to the manual, stating that the case-when structure must have at least two when sections.

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  • Custom capabilities in MQTT templates
    M mgvra

    Hi,
    I'm trying to integrate the sonos-mqtt (https://sonos2mqtt.svrooij.io/) with the MSR and it's coming along nicely so far.
    But cannot wrap my head around how to define custom capabilities in MQTT templates. I need this for the TTS announcements and similarly for the notification sounds where I would pass the sound file as parameter.

    So this is what I have in the local_mqtt_devices.yaml

    capabilities:
      x_sonos_announcement:
        attributes:
        actions:
          speak:
            arguments:
              text:
                type: string
              volume:
                type: int
              delay:
                type: int
    

    And this is the template:

    templates:
      sonos-announcement: 
        capabilities: 
          - x_sonos_announcement
        actions:
          x_sonos_announcement:
            speak:
              topic: "sonos/cmd/speak"
              payload:
                expr: >
                  { "text": parameters.text, "volume": parameters.volume, "delayMs": parameters.delay, "onlyWhenPlaying": false, "engine": "neural" }
                type: json
    

    So the speak action should send something like this to topic sonos/cmd/speak

    {
      "text": "message goes here",
      "volume": 50,
      "delayMs": 100,
      "onlyWhenPlaying": false,
      "engine": "neural"
    }
    

    At startup the MSR seems to be quite unhappy with my configuration:

    reactor  | [latest-25016]2025-02-09T08:19:59.029Z <MQTTController:WARN> MQTTController#mqtt entity Entity#mqtt>sonos-announcement unable to configure capabilities [Array][ "x_sonos_announcement" ]
    reactor  | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1}
    reactor  | i18n: missing fi-FI language string: Configuration for {0:q} has unrecognized capability {1:q} in actions
    reactor  | Trace: Configuration for {0:q} is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: {1}
    reactor  |     at _T (/opt/reactor/server/lib/i18n.js:611:28)
    reactor  |     at AlertManager.addAlert (/opt/reactor/server/lib/AlertManager.js:125:25)
    reactor  |     at MQTTController.sendWarning (/opt/reactor/server/lib/Controller.js:627:30)
    reactor  |     at MQTTController.start (/var/reactor/ext/MQTTController/MQTTController.js:268:26)
    reactor  |     at async Promise.allSettled (index 0)
    
    Configuration for "sonos-announcement" has unrecognized capability "x_sonos_announcement" in actions
    Controller: MQTTController#mqtt
    Last 10:21:37 AM
    
    Configuration for "sonos-announcement" is incomplete because the following requested capabilities are undefined: x_sonos_announcement
    Controller: MQTTController#mqtt
    Last 10:21:37 AM
    

    This is probably a pretty stupid question and the approach may not even work at all, but maybe someone or @toggledbits for sure, could point me to the right direction.
    Basically the idea is to be able to send TTS messages from reactions using entity actions. I've previously used HTTP requests to Sonos HTTP API (https://hub.docker.com/r/chrisns/docker-node-sonos-http-api/) for the same functionality, but since moving to sonos-mqtt, I need a way to send the TTS notifications using MQTTController. Along with the actual message, volume and delay must also be parameterizable.

    br,
    mgvra

    MSR latest-25016-d47fea38 / MQTTController [0.2.24293]

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  • Widget deletion does not work and landing page (status) is empy
    M mgvra

    Hi,
    Well my bad and classic RTFM case. Actually I also tried to drag it to the top but it seems that you have to hit the top bar on the spot in order to trigger the deletion, which is fine when you know it. And well right after the post, new release came out which fixed the landing page problem - nice work!

    br,
    mgvra

    Multi-System Reactor
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