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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Reactor Build 26284 stuck at Loading Reactor UI
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MSR with reverse proxy
tunnusT
I'm trying to use MSR via reserve proxy in Synology DSM, but MSR page does not load https://<public ip>:30000/reactor/en-US/ At the same time logging page loads normally https://<public ip>:30000/api/v1/log I thought maybe authentication was messing it up, but there was no deny entries in the log, and also disabling authentication did not make any difference. For this use case VPN is not an option (that works, but as said not an option for this particular use case). Any ideas what could cause this? MSR build latest-26242-28d69aa8, Chrome browser
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Use of Google Gemini as an MSR and Hubitat configuration aid
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I may be late to the AI party on this, but I recently ran into difficulty installing and configuring the Nexia Thermostat Manager on my Hubitat C8 Pro. Hoping for some immediate help I performed a Google search on my problem. I was a bit surprised to see Gemini jump into assist. Gemini walked me through the steps to clean up the failed install, followed by a script for successful installation and configuration. I would not have expected Gemini to "know" this much about Hubitat. Next I sought assistance MSR with the Entity Actions needed to set up the desired controls. I was unclear which of the attribute fields I should to set the cooling an heating temperatures. Once again, Gemini came back not with just a link to a possible explanation, but an easy to follow explanation instead. Once again, I did not expect Gemini to provide such detailed assistance with MSR. Gemini will be a key tool in my HA toolkit in the future.
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[MSR] Native fan capabilty
therealdbT
Nothing more to add. I see we have hvac_blower, but, anyway, maybe a native fan on the same assumptions of the fan from HASS could be reasonable. I have a couple of them. ie, this is from ESPHome via HASS. x_hass.domain="fan" x_hass.entity_id="fan.kitchen_seashell_hood_ventilation_fan" x_hass.floor_id=null x_hass.services=["fan","esphome"] x_hass.source="esphome" x_hass.state="off" x_hass_attr.friendly_name="Seashell Hood Ventilation Fan" x_hass_attr.percentage=50 x_hass_attr.percentage_step=25 x_hass_attr.preset_mode="" x_hass_attr.preset_modes=[] x_hass_attr.supported_features=49 Thanks.
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[MSR] Rule do not fire
therealdbT
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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Ooops - Deleted Reactor Ex Machina II
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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Bail out of failed reaction?
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Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
CrilleC
Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Upgrade Issues
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[SOLVED] Conflicting Set Reaction Groups Appear to Fire Simultaneously in Single Rule Evaluation
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[SOLVED] Question regarding "in" vs "contains" vs contents of the string
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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
Plugins
Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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  • Reactor Build 26284 stuck at Loading Reactor UI
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits
    This may be a feature request, which would solve the dynamic IP issue in mentioned in my previous post. Would it be possible to use domain names in the allowed list instead of just IPs (I tried, doesn't appear to work)?

    As I mentioned in the original post, I access MSR via the my Cloudflare domain name. Previous to this update, I was able to access it from anywhere. This lock down is probably a good thing, but it now creates a potential issue when I try and access MSR from my local network.

    Cloudflare automatically updates the Origin IP of my network, which is the same as the IP my ISP assigns me. If I put my domain name in as an allowed source, then anytime my ISP reassigns me an IP address, then that source IP would be allowed.

    My other option may be some sort of bash/cron script, but I'm not sure how successful it would be.

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  • Reactor Build 26284 stuck at Loading Reactor UI
    T tamorgen

    Okay, I determined the issue. I looked in the logs, and MSR is actually seeing the IP of the source host and denying the entry. I've added the assigned IP of from my ISP, as well as my work network to the allowed IP list. I can now access MSR from my workstation at work, as well as my iPhone with VPN to my home network turned on, and my local network as before. What I don't know about, is if my ISP reassigns my IP address, what I can do about it, as this could cause me to have to manually add that IP address every time it's changed. Historically, they haven't changed it often, but I may have to figure a way out to automatically update the config.

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  • Reactor Build 26284 stuck at Loading Reactor UI
    T tamorgen

    Good morning all,
    I'm having an issue with the latest version of MSR. I'm unable to get past "Loading Reactor UI..."

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    I run a MSR image in Portainer on Proxmox as a Docker VM. This has served me well for about the past 18 months. Previously I ran MSR as a bare metal install.

    To secure and access my local images, I run a Cloudflared LXC and run a Cloudflare tunnel. The Cloudflare tunnel for MSR points to my Proxmox server's local IP port 8554. I've used username/password since it became an option for MSR.

    I've read the notes about new Access control and reverse proxies. I'm not sure that this new feature is what is causing my issue, but this is the only thing I can think of at the moment.

    I also want to point out that if I access the site locally via IP, the site does load properly, albeit with a Not Secure warning:

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    Thanks in advance for any advice.

    Running:
    Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26284-5f780cf0
    ZWaveJSController [0.1.26048]

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  • Bail out of failed reaction?
    T tamorgen

    @Crille, thanks. I never noticed that box. Simple fix!

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  • Bail out of failed reaction?
    T tamorgen

    Good morning all,
    I've ran into an issue a few times when a node has gone dead for whatever reason, and all other reactions are held up because a reaction is trying to run and won't end because of the failed node.

    Specifically, I have z-wave blind controllers that are battery powered. Because they are battery powered, they don't always respond immediately. This becomes a problem when ZWave-JS updates, and the handshake between the update and the already included device fails. This doesn't happen often, but when it does, I have to go through the whole process of factory resetting the device and replace/including the existing device. This happened to me last night, and my whole home was held hostage by the one reaction that wouldn't run.

    The reason it won't stop and continue is a Repeat condition I have in place that I got from @toggledbits quite a while back, that repeats the command until the position value registers what the it was ordered to be. Below is a screenshot of the reaction that is called from other rulesets. Note that there are two devices being called here, a grouping for a single room.

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    I think I need some sort of way to count the number of passes/attempts this makes, an then let it go on if it fails. I'm just not sure how I would go about that.

    Any ideas?

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  • Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
    T tamorgen

    @vezinpi
    Thank you! That worked beautifully.

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  • Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits, thanks I did look for something like that, but I might be looking in the wrong place.

    FWIW, my panel is an actual EyezOn panel (UNO IP Hybrid). I had an EnvisaLink 4 with a DSC panel that took a hit and I had to replace the unit. From a HAAS/MSR perspective, the interaction is identical.

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  • Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
    T tamorgen

    Good afternoon all,
    I have a question for anyone who has experience with MSR and Envisalink/EyezOn alarm panels. The integration works fine for the most part, but there is an oddity when MSR arms the system to away. I get a notification from in the EyezOn app that says the system was armed by the last user to DISARM the system. I'd like to arm it in a way that it arms by the the user that leaves the home, which triggers the automated Arm process. I tried to do it with a dedicated user code for MSR, but it doesn't arm with that user.

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    This is obviously more of an annoyance, as the alarm does get armed, but the audit trail is incorrect, so I don't know who armed it. Anybody have any insight?

    running latest-26193-50401535 in Docker

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    Update. Worked perfectly. Thanks for setting me striaght!

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    Okay, I understand. For a minute I thought it there was a setting I needed to enable. I've set it up and I'll know if it works in the morning. Thanks for all the help.

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    Okay, thank you. That makes sense…. Other than deadband. What do you mean by that?

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    Okay, so maybe I'm missing something or not explaining my train of though here....

    First, I'm not trying to control an exhaust fan, I'm trying to control the shower light. The exhaust fan has it's own built in sensor and . I'm using the humidity to determine that someone is taking a shower, so the light should remain on. When someone stops taking a shower, the humidity will drop (due to the automatic exhaust fan), and then the light can be turned off. I can't easily put a motion sensor in the shower, so the humidity sensor is the logical sensor. I've observed the values before, during, and after taking a shower, and generally, the humidity in that room is 30's or 40's, and when a shower is in play, it jumps up to the 70's or 80's.

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    I tried doing it with just one rule, but there really isn't a operand to change below a number. There is Changes from x to y, and then < or <=. If I just have a simple rule to say below 65%, then the light will go off before the humidity level rises. This is why I was trying to latch aspect, because generally when I step into the bathroom, I manually turn on the shower light, turn on the shower, finish, and inevitably the shower light get's left on, whether it's me or my wife.

    I initially thought about the trend/time aspect, but I thought that for this purpose, that is actually over complicating things. All I really need to know is a) did the humidity level rise above point A, and b) did it drop below point B, in that sequence.

    So, from my understanding, you are saying I just need to change the value fo the first condition to >= 65, and the second condition can stay at <= 65?

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    So, for some reason, my Latch method isn't working. I see the humidity go above 70, and I see the first condition go true. When I'm done showering, and fan evacuates the excess humidity, it drops back down and goes below 65, and that condition becomes true.

    The second condition has the restriction that it must occur after the first condition is met.

    I guess the second condition resets the Latched condition, so both conditions aren't true at the same time?

    Is there another way to do a first condition, then the second condition that I'm missing?

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits said in Condition for trend:

    VirtualEntityController can sample another entity's data and do time-series aggregation (moving average, rate of change, etc.).

    Thanks for that. I wasn't familiar with that, and it sounds like what I was initially looking for.

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    I think I may have figured out a way...

    If I use a Latch condition when the Humidity goes above 60, and then another condition when it goes below 45 (dependent on the first condition being true first), that should give me the result I'm looking for; that being the shower isn't being used anymore, and the shower light can be turned off. Am I correct in my understanding of how Latch works, in that that condition will stay true until the Set Reaction triggers?

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  • Condition for trend
    T tamorgen

    Is there a way to set a condition for a trending number? I just installed a Zooz ZSE44 Temp/Humidity sensor in one of my bathrooms. I wanted to set a condition based upon how quickly the Humidity sensor reports the humidity level trending down (say after a shower).

    If you look at the graph below from the device, you can see the humidity spiking at 5 am, then dropping, then spiking again, then dropping. I'm trying to set up a condition when the level trends up or down quickly.

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  • Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits said in Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device:

    The name is incorrect at ZWave-JS (on the node itself) if that's the case, so to keep your sanity later, make sure you go all the way back to the source and work your way forward from there.

    I renamed the devices on the ZWave-JS UI, so i won't have the problem going forward. I'm still not sure how this all happened, as I did not experience this problem in years past. The only thing I can think of is there was some sort of glitch in an upgrade. I know I had to restore the Z-Wave JS UI to an earlier version back in October because of a change they made that broke window coverings, so perhaps during that restore something went wonky.

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  • Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits

    Thank you. Perhaps the non-updating of the name was the root cause of my issue all along.

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  • Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits said in Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device:

    . Can you confirm that in the startup messages for Reactor, ZWaveJSController reports it is version as 25304

    Yes, it shows up as 0.1.25304

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    So, you seemed to have hit it. There is a disagreement in the names in the Z-wave JS integration and the Z-Wave JS UI naming. I'm not sure how or when that happened, since I haven't touched the naming of these in at least 2 years.

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    The device that is 136 is truly the Front Porch Sconces. Everywhere in the HA dashboards when I click on the binary switch, it does turn it on. Same with 137 being the Soffit Lights.

    It would seem it's getting the names from the ZwaveJS UI values, since they seemed to be off. I've gone ahead and renamed them in ZwaveJS UI to reflect the values in ZwaveJS. How do I get ZWaveJSController to update the names? They still show up as the incorrect name. I went ahead and restarted MSR, and the old naming is till persistent.

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  • Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
    T tamorgen

    I also just noticed that if I performed an action from the Entities page in MSR fr 137-0, it's turning on 136-0 in HAAS. If I turn on 136-0 through entities, it's turning on 137-0 in HAAS. It would appear these devices are somehow switching actions, despite everything showing what they are.

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