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tamorgen

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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
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Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
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Ezlo Paid Subscription for Vera Cloud Services
toggledbitsT
It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago. If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship. I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid). These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
wmarcolinW
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Question about the find function
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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Farewell, oh good and faithful servant!
CatmanV2C
Today marks another milestone in my Home Automation journey. After tripping the main breaker once, and shedding more blood than is normally recommended, the underfloor heating (which was the last Z-wave device on my system) has been replaced with a Zigbee one. Edited reactor.conf Disabled z-way-server Disabled Openluup Z-wave is no more.... C
General Discussion
http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
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Cloning actions in reactions does not work
tunnusT
With build 26140 (on Docker) I'm not able to clone any actions in reactions. Using Chrome if it has any relevance.
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Has ping command been removed?
tunnusT
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ReferenceError with Home Assistant data & build 26140
tunnusT
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  • Another Vera --> Home Assistant migration question
    T tamorgen

    @therealdb

    I just ended it doing it from scratch. It only took a few hours to go from room to room, exclude, include, etc. Home Assistant includes devices much faster than Vera. The biggest headache was waiting for Vera to reload itself every time I removed a node, that and moving both Vera and Home Assistant from room to room, plugging in, and waiting for them to boot up.

    The other headache I ended up dealing with some of my battery powered devices. More specifically, I had problems with my iBlinds motors. I could connect to them fine when my Home Assistant RPI was in the room, but the minute I put the RPI back in it's home, which is the same location Vera was in before, I lost all communication with those devices. I spent the better part of yesterday fighting this.

    I let Home Assistant heal the mesh last night, and tried again this morning. They still were being listed as "dead". I started digging a bit more into the HA community forums, and I came across a post that said that plugging the Zwave stick directly into the USB port is a known problem, and that there can be interference from the Pi board itself. I found an old USB extension cable, and moved it about 3 feet away, and magically everything joined back up!

    At this point, I've pretty much migrated off of Vera. It's kind of bittersweet. Vera worked pretty well when I started off years ago, but the lack of development from Vera, together with the instability of their servers, and the lack of forward momentum on the Ezlo front put me fully in the Home Assistant camp. Thankfully MSR has made that shift much easier, since I was able to use my same rules from Vera and use them for my new HA.

    Vera

  • Home assistant Native Notification
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits
    Thanks Patrick, that did the trick!

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  • Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?
    T tamorgen

    @Pabla said in Is it possible to use a single reaction for multiple entities as variables?:

    Don't use the play button next to the action, use the play button right under set reaction

    Well that makes a difference! This has been driving me nuts all afternoon. Thanks for cluing me in!

    IMG_F4FBD5E781DD-1.jpeg

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  • ZWaveJSController won't connect to ZWaveJS under Home Assistant/HACS
    T tamorgen

    Figured out the issue. HA has moved crap all over the place over the past year, and some of those directions in the other thread are out date. Here is the problem I found. It still leads back to @Pabla 's comment about only one instance running.

    When I went to HACS --> Add-ons, I saw a screen, with only Z-Wave JS UI. If I go to Settings --> Add-Ons, it shows Z-Wave JS and Z-Wave JS UI.

    I went into Z-Wave JS in the Add-On screen, and changed the Start On Boot to off, and all of a sudden, the Z-Wave JS Controller connected.

    Screen Shot 2023-04-02 at 12.58.26 PM.png

    Crazy!

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  • Would you use a self-hosted geofencing solution?
    T tamorgen

    I'm just getting started using MSR. I'm currently using iPhoneLocator as a plugin on Vera, but I'm looking eventually to retire my Vera and move to Ezlo. Ezlo has on their roadmap native Geofencing, however, if it's anything like Vera's, I don't see it being particuarlly reliable. I found iPhoneLocator to be much more reliable. Unfortunately, the developer has said he has no plans of migrating it to Ezlo, so I'm stuck with waiting for Ezlo to devlop theirs, or keeping Vera running at the same time as Ezlo, and using iPhoneLocator as a Geofencing solution through MSR.

    I would like to see something self hosted through MSR.

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  • New HA instance
    T tamorgen

    @CatmanV2

    Welcome to the HA community. I stuck around with Vera for about 8 years, and kept waiting for Ezlo to live up to it's promises, as support for Vera dwindled and fell behind. Last September I took the jump to HA, ported all of my Vera native Reactor rules to MSR, and haven't looked back. I'm amazed on how much more I'm able to do with Home Assistant, and the stability improvements are night and day.

    I'm running my HA on a stand alone RPi4 as well. I run MSR on my home NAS server. A word or two of advice I would give you, is make sure you run it on a SSD and not the microSD slot. Faster performance and much better reliability. And of course, run backups of your HA configuration (Google cloud is a good solution for this).

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  • First post
    T tamorgen

    Good morning all,
    First, I just wanted to say hi and introduce myself. I've been using a Vera Plus for about 8 years now, and the luup based Reactor for two or three. Before that I used PLEG for my home logic on Vera.

    I've been monitoring the evolution of Ezlo, and I'm starting to consider making the jump to it. After discussing with others over on the Vera/Ezlo community, it seems that it's not an all or nothing switch, particularly with the Patrick's MSR, so I'm joining here today to start taking a look at it.

    Anyway, that's my basic post. Look forward to playing with MSR in the near future.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Smart bed sensor
    T tamorgen

    @CatmanV2 said in Smart bed sensor:

    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

    HA! Vera abuser or abused by Vera? I know I felt abused when I switched to Home Assistant just about a year ago.

    General Discussion

  • First post
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits said in First post:

    Haven't used Fedora in a good while (although I'm a Berkeley guy), but most *nix has the which command you can use to find the path that a command lives in: which node

    That did it. I always forget that command!

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  • MSR Reaction question - Support with iBlinds on Vera
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits Thanks Patrick. I'll edit the post title.

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  • Using Google Calendar data from HA in Reactor
    T tamorgen

    @therealdb said in Using Google Calendar data from HA in Reactor:

    There’s a part dedicated to dates in the docs. I think the best approach is to parse the date from the attribute and compare day and month part to start/end. Everything is covered under expressions in the docs.

    I figured the issue out. All the documentation in HA had been telling me to use haas_attr: offset_reached to cue to the calendar event, which seems to work in Home Assistant when creating automations, but not in MSR. What I found through a bit of trial and error is that what I'm actually looking for is haas.state (primary).

    Once I figured that out, adding conditions based upon hass_attr: message, which is actually the calendar title.

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  • Update to 22306 not working as expected
    T tamorgen

    That would do it . I thought I was in my home directory.

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  • iPhone location or alternative.
    T tamorgen

    @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

    @tamorgen If you're using Home Assistant look into iCloud3. It replaces the native iCloud integration and is much, much more reliable. You can find it in HACS.

    Oh - and the level of detail you can pull into MSR is wonderful.

    I did try it for a while, but I kept getting annoying emails from Apple that my iCloud account was signed into. There is a ton of detail on it, but frankly, all I needed to know was whether a particular user was at my home or not. The companion app works perfectly well for that simple task

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  • iPhone location or alternative.
    T tamorgen

    @gwp1 said in iPhone location or alternative.:

    @tamorgen I found the trick of triggering from iC3's zone_name within MSR virtually eliminates false GPS drift from suddenly shutting my house down around me only to open it back up again when it course-corrects.

    I don't get those emails - I think I did initially and don't recall what I did to stop them. iCloud does, now and then, force a reconfirmation dialogue but that's easy 2FA stuff.

    You know, looking back, I don’t think I was using IC3. I think I was using the Apple ICloud integration native to HA, not HACS. I’ll take a look at a closer look at IC3. Might give me some added functionality I don’t know I need 🙂

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Need help with DynamicGroup reaction for dead nodes in HAAS
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits said in Need help with DynamicGroup reaction for dead nodes in HAAS:

    EDIT: The screen shot should have a line group_actions: true following the filter_expression line, with the same indent.

    I saw that in the block code when I was adding it to my instance. Thanks for pointing it out.

    Now I'll have to watch the logging to see if it gets triggered.... that and notifications sent to my phone.

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  • MSR - Bug report
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits
    New information: I created a new rule, and the "less than" operator does save properly. The issue seems to only be the case when changing the restriction operator on existing rules.

    I also tried to change that newly created rule restriction operator from "less than" to "at least", and just like my other existing rules, it failed to save after the change.

    I hope this helps.

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  • MSR - Bug report
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits,
    I just tried another method for verification. I tried making a copy of the rule, and editing that copy. I'm unable to change that restriction operator on the newly copied rule. I'm assuming it saves it when the rule is copied, so when I go to edit that restriction, it acts like an existing rule, and will not allow the change to be saved.

    Please let me know if I can provide any more information.

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  • MSR - Bug report
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits,
    Final piece of the puzzle. If I change the sustained seconds value itself, I can change the sustained operator. I'm now able to correct the rules operator, but I have to change the seconds value along with the operator for it save properly. This is a work around, but no matter what I to do, the restriction operator cannot be changed by only changing the drop down.

    I hope this makes sense and you can reproduce it on your end, to determine the cause. If you need anything else from me, please let me know.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [SOLVED] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating
    T tamorgen

    @gwp1 said in [SOLVED] New iblind and zwaveJScontroller/MSR not communicating:

    Further, I just discovered if I do a reinterview on an existing blind via ZWaveJS in HA it switches to this new Window Covering mode.

    For what it's worth, I have both v2 and v3.1 iBlinds in my home. Reinterviewing only changes the type from multilevel switches to window covering on v3.1 blinds. Version 2 blinds remain multilevel switches after reinterviewing.

    The Window Covering class is supposedly better. The MLS class is designed for rolling blinds, so on/off will have the bllinds all the way open, or all the way off. With horizonal blinds, the 0/100 values are just 180 degree opposites of a closed blind. With Window Covering class, I believe there are values to tell the Z-Wave system what type of blind it is, and specify what is open versus closed. I dealt with iBlinds support maybe 4 or 5 months ago, and at the time, no Z-Wave system supported Window Covering. Zwave JS implemented the change shortly thereafter.

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  • Actionable notification question
    T tamorgen

    @toggledbits, it's going to take soem time to wrap my head around everything you posted, but it's great to know it's possible!

    Multi-System Reactor
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