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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
General Discussion
Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
Home Assistant
Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
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Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
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Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
Hardware
Errors after updating to MQTTController build 25139
tunnusT
I'm running MSR build 25139 on Docker, using MQTT controller 24293, and everything working as expected. But if I try to upgrade to MQTTController build 25139, I'm getting the following errors on MSR UI: An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.god Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa auto heating off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.green Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto off" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute temperature_sensor.red Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa filter pump auto run" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.pump Last 11:20:37 An Entity Attribute condition in "Lay-Z-Spa watchdog" (Terrace) failed because the referenced entity "Lay-Z-Spa States" (mqtt>layzspa_states) does not have attribute value_sensor.status Last 11:20:37 My MQTT configuration (local_mqtt_devices.yaml) for the related entity is: layzspa_message: type: ValueSensor capabilities: ["temperature_sensor", "value_sensor", "power_sensor"] primary_attribute: power_sensor.value events: "layzspa/message": "power_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.PWR )' expr: "float(payload.PWR)" "value_sensor.air": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AIR )' expr: "float(payload.AIR)" "value_sensor.pump": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.FLT )' expr: "float(payload.FLT)" "value_sensor.god": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GOD )' expr: "float(payload.GOD)" "value_sensor.lock": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.LCK )' expr: "float(payload.LCK)" "value_sensor.unit": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.UNT )' expr: "float(payload.UNT)" "value_sensor.error": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.ERR )' expr: "float(payload.ERR)" "temperature_sensor.green": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.GRN )' expr: "float(payload.GRN)" "temperature_sensor.red": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.RED )' expr: "float(payload.RED)" "temperature_sensor.target": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TGT )' expr: "float(payload.TGT)" "temperature_sensor.value": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.TMP )' expr: "float(payload.TMP)" "temperature_sensor.virtual": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.VTM )' expr: "round(float(payload.VTM), 1)" "temperature_sensor.ambient": json_payload: true if_expr: '! isnull( payload?.AMB )' expr: "float(payload.AMB)" "layzspa/Status": "value_sensor.status": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" "layzspa/button": "value_sensor.button": if_expr: '! isnull( payload )' expr: "payload" and in reactor.yaml I have: "layzspa_states": name: "Lay-Z-Spa States" friendly_name: 'Lay-Z-Spa States' include: layzspa_message I realize my MQTT configuration might be a bit unorthodox, but could there still be something unintentional in the latest MQTTController build? If needed, I can provide detailed logs.
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  • Little Bobby tables...
    akbooerA akbooer

    …had to happen.

    General Discussion

  • Home Assistant Voice
    akbooerA akbooer

    @CatmanV2 said in Home Assistant Voice:

    Cheers! I shall try and make some time 🙂
    (Is it just me that hates having to watch videos? Can't we just have instructions written down? 🙂 )

    Not just you! Such a lot of very poor narration and not so easy to refer back to! A modern disease.

    Home Assistant

  • Home Assistant Voice
    akbooerA akbooer

    I didn’t go the HA route, but have voice control through Apple HomeKit and Siri. Works OK, but don’t use it much.

    Home Assistant

  • Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
    akbooerA akbooer

    What’s the difficulty? Does your switch wiring have a neutral? What country are you in?

    Hardware wifi switches smart home

  • Disaster recovery and virtualisation
    akbooerA akbooer

    Impressive.. great when it all works too!

    I’ve been very happy since I moved everything I could to Synology.

    A
    K

    General Discussion

  • AltUI sans internet connection
    akbooerA akbooer

    Yes, if it’s openLuup, then I was going to suggest that… rather depends on what you were trying to do.

    Software

  • 'Random' lights turning on
    akbooerA akbooer

    Bizarre! … but good catch.

    I’m a Siri user, myself. How do you link Alexa to openLuup? My link to Siri is via HomeKit (of course) for Hue and Shelly devices.

    General Discussion

  • openLuup email server
    akbooerA akbooer

    @a-lurker said in openLuup email server:

    To keep things so they are more likely to work, it's suggested the email address should be totally case insensitive regardless.

    Yes. I see from the ource code comments tht eraly-on I removed address wrapping to lower case. It's an easy change, but I'm going to find out why I did that in the first place, before reverting.

    @a-lurker said in openLuup email server:

    Is it your preference to leave the saved files in the raw mode or would you consider translating the base64 text in the openLuup code base?

    Don't see why not. Again, I need to dig in to see why that isn't working out of the box. There's plenty Base64 decoding going on within the server anyway.

    @a-lurker said in openLuup email server:

    On a side note, does the reception of an email by openLuup generate some sort of trigger that can be watched.

    Your best bet would surely be to register a callback handler to listen for messages on a specific address?

    I have another big project ongoing with some sort of a deadline at the start of December, so I'll need to leave things until then before I can get back to this code.

    Thanks again for your documentation efforts. I did say I would provide a link from the openLuup app... perhaps in the footer, like there is for the forum?

    openLuup

  • openLuup email server
    akbooerA akbooer

    You have been doing your homework!

    I need to remind myself of what I did way back when before being able to reply sensibly.

    But thanks for the excellent analysis.

    openLuup

  • Looking for Remote Switch boxes that can also be used with a wireless Decora Style Switch.
    akbooerA akbooer

    Not sure if your controller handles WiFi controlled devices?

    General Discussion

  • Looking for Remote Switch boxes that can also be used with a wireless Decora Style Switch.
    akbooerA akbooer

    As it says, this will need a Zwave hub to work.

    General Discussion

  • Looking for Remote Switch boxes that can also be used with a wireless Decora Style Switch.
    akbooerA akbooer

    Not quite clear on what you’d need, but have you looked at the Shelly range of products for remote switching?

    General Discussion

  • Why different types of Triggers within openLuup & ALTUI
    akbooerA akbooer

    I should have thought so.

    Can you post the JSON for the scene from the console scene page?

    openLuup

  • Why different types of Triggers within openLuup & ALTUI
    akbooerA akbooer

    Go to the AltUI Attibutes page and enter 1 into the disabled attribute box.

    Restart Lua.

    Everything will still be there in case you want to reactivate it.

    openLuup

  • Why different types of Triggers within openLuup & ALTUI
    akbooerA akbooer

    You’ll note from your first attached image that there are three types of trigger recognised by openLuup:

    1. openLuup Variable watches
    2. AltUI variable watches
    3. Luup UPnP

    #3, as noted in that image, are all ignored by openLuup. This system was hopelessly flawed, which prompted @amg0 to create variable watches (#2).

    When I removed all AltUI dependencies from openLuup (my operational system doesn’t even have AltUI installed) I needed a replacement for those variable watches, hence #1.

    The openLuup watches are recognised by AltUI as a form of #3, because the Vera-compatible data structures are used, in a very limited way, to implement them, and save them in the JSON file.

    So with AltUI installed, both will work (if enabled.)

    openLuup

  • Just starting what hub is best.
    akbooerA akbooer

    Hi there.

    'Best', of course, is subjective. What are your needs/wants really?

    Also, what type of IT infrastructure do you have, or are you used to? Apple, PC, Linux, ...?

    Lots of choice, to be sure.

    General Discussion

  • OpenLuup : Loading Global Modules
    akbooerA akbooer

    Yes.

    An alternative is to create the module table at the start, and define the functions directly as module components…

    local _M = {}
    
    function _M.myfunction(…)
      — whatever
    end
    
    function _M.anotherFunction(…)
      — whatever
    end
    
    return _M
    
    
    openLuup

  • OpenLuup : Loading Global Modules
    akbooerA akbooer

    The module call is, for good technical reasons, set to a no-op in openLuup.

    It’s also an outmoded/deprecated pattern in newer Lua versions.

    You should, instead, ensure that the module itself ends with a return statement, with a table including the required module contents.

    There’s several ways to accomplish this. In openLuup itself I’ve generally done something like this:

    — my module
    
    local function f1()
      whatever
    end
    
    local function f2()
      whatever
    end
    
    return {
      f1 = f1,
      f2 = f2,
    }
    
    
    openLuup

  • DIY HomeKey locks via Reactor
    akbooerA akbooer

    Thanks for this fabulous hardware “how to” !

    Hardware

  • Scene Controllers -- What are you using?
    akbooerA akbooer

    For Zwave, I used to love the 4 button MiniMote, but for similar functionality (non Zwave) I now use Philips Hue smart switches (detachable for hand held.) Labelling the buttons in either of the cases is a non-starter, really.

    For voice control, I can use an Apple HomePod Mini, through HomeKit, but for single buttons I’ve also got some Shelly devices.

    For wall-mounted buttons, I use the MK Grid system, with Shelly i4 or relays in the wall box. This has the advantage of being available in 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, and 8 wallplate configurations with interchangeable toggle or push buttons, and you can get buttons with etched labels for common functions (fan, etc.)

    No really good winning solution here.

    Hardware
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