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Alan_F

@Alan_F
HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
Home Assistant
How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
S
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
Zigbee
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[HowTo] Using HABridge with Reactor
therealdbT
If you’re like me and still running HABridge to control your devices locally via Alexa, you might need to tweak your endpoints to call Reactor via HTTP. Here’s the best way to do it, IMO: Insert the Reactor Canonical ID (e.g., zwavejs>71-1) into the MapID field, but make sure it’s URL-encoded like this: zwavejs%3E71-1. Then, configure these endpoints as needed: On: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.on Off: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.off Dim: For lights: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/dimming.set?level=${intensity.decimal_percent} For roller shutters: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/position.set?value=${intensity.decimal_percent} Color: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/rgb_color.set_rgb?red=${color.r}&green=${color.g}&blue=${color.b} Just replace [ReactorIP] with your actual IP address. By using these placeholders, you can standardize your endpoints across all devices, making maintenance easier. This setup works with any device mapped under MSR, regardless of the controller (ZWaveJS, Vera, HASS, OpenSprinkler, virtual, MQTT, DynamicEntities, etc.). If you need different calls, just go to the entities, get the action and parameters, and adjust accordingly. Enjoy super fast access to your devices via Alexa! If you're migrating from Vera, the endpoints are (URL-encoded) in a file called device.db, in JSON format, under your config. You'd write a script to align the new endpoints to the new one, if you prefer to do it automatically. YMMV.
How-To
[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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  • Having trouble with http and basic auth
    A Alan_F

    I updated to the latest version and it is working with Digest auth and the new username / password fields. You are going to spoil us with this pace of development 😃

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  • Difference between two dates.
    A Alan_F

    @wmarcolin

    I'm still trying to try one of these things and not have @toggledbits come in right behind me and show a much easier way. Maybe this time I'll get lucky.

    I came up with this:
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  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    A Alan_F

    Based on the comments from the more experienced users here I ordered a Hubitat this morning and Amazon had it to my door about 3 hours later. After a few z-wave network resets to try to resolve one switch that just won't configure, I have about 90% of everything migrated over to Hubitat. Vera still has a few SiteSensors (I need to read up on the threads about replicating site sensors on MSR) and some Yeelight bulbs that are on a separate VLAN from the Hubitat. I haven't found a way to connect them manually yet and the Hubitat can't discover them across the VLANs.

    I'm still trying to figure out a way to use Google Home to flip a virtual switch in Hubitat to then trigger a http call from MSR. There are a few things I was doing with Vera scenes to achieve a similar effect, but MSR doesn't seem to be able to see Hubitat virtual devices.

    I'll probably keep the VeraPlus going for a while with the Yeelights and the SiteSensors while I figure the rest of this out.

    Thanks for the advice.

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  • Suppressing alerts in HTTP Request actions
    A Alan_F

    +1

    I am getting occasional network timeouts on a http request that repeats every two minutes (it is emulating a SiteSensor that I had on Vera). I'd like to be able to suppress those alerts as they are expected to happen from time to time and not anything I need to be notified about.

    Edit:
    Nevermind.... I posted here before looking at the update you just posted in the announcements thread... I see you already made this change.

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  • Having trouble with http and basic auth
    A Alan_F

    I took the UserName and Password, used a base 64 encoder and input "UserName:Password" into the encoder. I took the output of the encoder ("ABCDEFGXXX") and entered (no quotes) "Authentication: Basic ABCDEFGXXX" into the http headers field. I have another http request in another rule that hits an API to control my thermostat and it work correctly using exactly the same process.

    The logs don't appear to make any reference to the http header:

    [latest-21297]2021-11-01T22:21:55.816Z Engine:INFO Set PTZ Camera to Day Mode rule<SET> all actions completed.
    [latest-21297]2021-11-01T22:21:55.845Z Engine:ERR Engine#1 reaction Set PTZ Camera to Day Mode rule<SET> step 3 HTTP request to http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/cgi-bin/ptz.cgi?action=start&channel=0&code=GotoPreset&arg1=0&arg2=18&arg3=0 failed: 401 Unauthorized
    [latest-21297]2021-11-01T22:21:55.854Z Engine:ERR Engine#1 reaction Set PTZ Camera to Day Mode rule<SET> step 1 HTTP request to http://xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/cgi-bin/configManager.cgi?action=setConfig&VideoInMode[0].Config[0]=0 failed: 401 Unauthorized

    Prior to attempting to use the http header field I had tried the below format, with the username and password in front of the URL:

    [latest-21297]2021-11-01T12:58:08.125Z Engine:ERR Engine#1 reaction Set PTZ Camera to Night Mode rule<SET> step 3 HTTP request to http://UserName:Password@xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx/cgi-bin/configManager.cgi?action=setConfig&VideoInExposure[0][1].Value1=1000&VideoInExposure[0][1].Value2=1000 failed: 401 Unauthorized

    I did get this working in Node-Red using digest authentication in a http-request node, so it probably isn't worth too much of everyone's time to track it down. I would prefer to have it in MSR because it is so much more user-friendly for me, but I can leave it in Node-Red if I can't figure out how to do it in MSR.

    @toggledbits - Long overdue additional donation on its way. Thanks for all your efforts and the end-user support.

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  • Notifications from Alerts
    A Alan_F

    Resurrecting this older thread... does this answer mean there is no way to react to the presence of an alert within MSR? If not, this would be a useful enhancement.

    I have a camera that is switched between day and night settings by http requests sent by MSR near sunset and sunrise. Yesterday the camera stayed in night mode most of the day while there was an alert showing in MSR that the http request had failed. I realize I could capture the http response to an expression/variable and then write a rule based on that variable to notify me, but I'd have to do this for every http request in every ruleset, and I'd have to make sure I evaluate the response correctly (which is likely to be a hit or miss operation for me). That still wouldn't capture other alerts that MSR might display outside of failed http requests, but I'd like to push all alerts to my notification system. Basically, I don't want to have to check the MSR interface to make sure it's happy, I'd like it to tell me when it's not.

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  • Notifications from Alerts
    A Alan_F

    Just a note for posterity that alerts are now available as an entity as of version 21356.

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  • Opening curtains with a motion sensor but only once?
    A Alan_F

    @cw-kid I'm sure there are multiple ways to do this, and probably some better than what I'm thinking...

    Create an expression "g_curtains_open_today"

    Create a rule. At midnight every day set g_curtains_open_today to false

    Motion sensor rule: If motion sensor trips AND g_curtains_open_today is false then:

    -> Open curtains
    -> set g_curtains_open_today to true

    The next time the motion sensor trips before midnight the curtains will not open

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  • MQTT - add rules support ?
    A Alan_F

    @Crille Thanks! I was a bit confused when I first read that section of the MQTT documentation but your example using the topics from my own system helped clear it up for me.

    I made a slight change to the template to make it "teslamate/cars/%topic%" which allows me to re-use it for multiple binary entities for both cars by using for example "topic: "1/locked" and "topic: 2/locked" for two entities in reactor.yaml.

    I also hit a snag where trying to directly copy:

        entities:
          teslamate_sensor:
            type: BinarySensor
            capabilities: ['binary_sensor']
            primary_attribute: binary_sensor.state
    

    caused Reactor not to start with a yaml formatting error, but referring to the documentation I changed it to:

        entities:
          teslamate_sensor:
            type: BinarySensor
            capabilities: 
              - binary_sensor
            primary_attribute: binary_sensor.state
    

    moving the capability down one line with a leading "-" and it works.

    Now I just have to find the time to write all the rules that are possible with the car information available in MSR... 👍

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  • General question: MSR and multiple HE hubs
    A Alan_F

    They are not using the Hubitat mesh. They are completely separate.

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  • Can the list of rule sets be sorted?
    A Alan_F

    So it works just like most of the other elements in MSR.

    Move along people... nothing to see here... just me missing the obvious.

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