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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
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Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
MikeReadingtonM
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Ezlo Paid Subscription for Vera Cloud Services
toggledbitsT
It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago. If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship. I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid). These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.
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[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
wmarcolinW
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[RESOLVED] HTTP query failing after version 26177
wmarcolinW
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Question about the find function
wmarcolinW
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[Answered] OK to remove old json files?
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Deprecation Announcement: 32-bit ARM *docker* images
toggledbitsT
If you are using the armv7l docker image, the OpenJS Foundation that publishes node is no longer producing 32-bit builds as of v24. That means the last supported LTS version of node for armv7l is v22, which will go End-of-Life in May 2027. Therefore, the Reactor armv7l image is now deprecated and will only be produced until node v22 goes EOL, and I will not publish armv7l images beyond that date. If you are running an RPi 3 or earlier with Reactor, you are on this image, and will need to upgrade hardware to a 64-bit model and use the arm64 image. If you need help getting it done, ask in this category.
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[Solved] build 26150 - engine not starting
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@toggledbits I pulled the image (well, Watchtower did) and within minutes the whole system went offline. The log looks like it ends with 26143. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mkahsmgf/26qq82mw-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lqyfljfi/22f8on0t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lsb61rw8/24oenqi2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/rule-lrh58he0:S-1c00gfib-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1c00dylr-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lrh58he0/1nam9w5u-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miuh2qqi/22ls4lql-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1vj8sdfc-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-kwc6rmci/rule-kwc6rmci:S-1qanz01x-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/24lq19p6-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-mk0o8iox/23oy468y-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-miscg2h3/rule-miscg2h3:S-22gmbq1c-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrfjke/238p0old-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-m7ccsso5/re-m7ccsso5-1r0myjxa-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/19nl9wq2-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3xk9t-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ladyja6a/rule-ladyja6a:S-yl3vv5m-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/re-ln7j2nqp-22mx9lzd-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-ln7j2nqp/22mx87c8-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-licneppy/1mzwe7ht-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-ml3194ih/25jqt1j4-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-kxgrg7kf/227hshak-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13ua1p95-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-reactorexmachina/13uagam7-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x4cbv-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-grpvl9oypg/rule-grpvl9oypg:R-134x2fyl-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#re-lscjrws1/238p5c22-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#Predicate#rule-lbwr0jvq/1xkczf03-cons [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.547Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: disconnecting from "192.168.1.23#82" (1001 service closing) [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.548Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed. [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.549Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Shutdown complete, process ID 1 [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <app:null> Closing logs... [latest-26143]2026-05-31T15:23:44.551Z <default:null> Closing log I can SSH to the VM. Alas, I do not have the previous image for 26143 as I'm a little too quick sometimes on housekeeping.
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Farewell, oh good and faithful servant!
CatmanV2C
Today marks another milestone in my Home Automation journey. After tripping the main breaker once, and shedding more blood than is normally recommended, the underfloor heating (which was the last Z-wave device on my system) has been replaced with a Zigbee one. Edited reactor.conf Disabled z-way-server Disabled Openluup Z-wave is no more.... C
General Discussion
http request action & digest auth
tunnusT
I’m using the HTTP Request action in MSR and need to authenticate against an endpoint that uses HTTP Digest authentication. Now that endpoint was changed to use SHA-256 in digest auth, so I would like to know if MSR supports it, or is it limited to MD5-based digest auth?
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Cloning actions in reactions does not work
tunnusT
With build 26140 (on Docker) I'm not able to clone any actions in reactions. Using Chrome if it has any relevance.
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Has ping command been removed?
tunnusT
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ReferenceError with Home Assistant data & build 26140
tunnusT
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  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    Black CatB Black Cat

    He is very sensitive if anyone criticizes his baby, I'm with @akbooer but believe the wheels have already fallen off as there are few devs left on the forum.
    It will be at least 2 years before there is a viable marketable product let alone any plugins to replace what will be lost when Vera goes EOL.

    Vera

  • First post to say hello
    Black CatB Black Cat

    There is a new member who seems to be a little shy to say hello.
    Let's give Sorin a big welcome......

    General Discussion

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    Black CatB Black Cat

    There is nothing on that forum that is of interest now. Before it was a joy to open it and read what others had achieved, look at it now, just full of beta comments of possible new FW.
    Commercially, I've opted for Homeseer and have never looked back especially as HS4 now supports node-red natively, but always read this forum first as it has many old friends on board advancing Home Management Automation. Keep up the good work guy's and don;t look back.

    Vera

  • SilLabs Virtual Meeting - looks at Hub that failed........
    Black CatB Black Cat

    General Information - I thought some of the regulars would like to register. Links down the bottom,Interesting that they are looking into the failures....wonder if there will be any mention of you know what.....

    Z-Wave Works With Amazon, Google, Samsung, Apple, Comcast Virtual Conference
    by DrZWave
    Silicon Labs is hosting what was intended to be an in-person conference in Austin Texas but is now a virtual online conference on IoT ecosystems - the Works With Smart Home Developer Event September 9-10. The best part is it is now FREE to attend any of the in-depth technical sessions and you don't have to wear a mask. The downside is that we don't get to experience all that great music down in Austin - well, there's always next year!

    Virtual IoT Works With EcoSystems from Google, Amazon, Apple for Z-Wave development engineers
    https://workswith.silabs.com/
    I am hosting the Z-Wave track and will be making several presentations including a detailed look at Silicon Labs latest release of Simplicity Studio V5 which just came out yesterday. We'll also have presentations on developing Z-Wave Smart Hubs and Z-Wave Certification. I'll also be describing some IoT failures - you learn more from your failures than your successes. We have speakers and engineers from all of the ecosystem partners, not just Silicon Labs folks. Learn from the experts from across the industry!

    What is Works With 2020? The smart home developer’s virtual event where you will have the opportunity to interact with our ecosystem partners from Amazon, Google, Samsung, and Z-Wave to connect devices, platforms and protocols and be able to immerse yourself in keynotes, a panel discussion on Project CHIP, hands-on, and technical sessions led by smart home engineers who are building the latest advanced IoT devices. The Works With event is live, all-online, free of charge, and you can join from anywhere around the world.

    Works With Z-Wave Apple, Google, Amazon, Samsung IoT SmartHome conference 2020
    Click here to Register Today and feel free to forward to the rest of your team.

    Here’s an overview of what you won’t want to miss:

    Specialized Engineer-Led Tracks – Educational sessions and technical training designed for engineers, executives, developers, business development and product managers.

    Hands-On Workshops More than 12 workshops and hands-on sessions to give you experience, knowledge and confidence to develop and accelerate smart home development.

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    Join me in September and learn how to smoothly get your IoT device plugged into any and all of the ecosystem partners. Register today, it's totally free and you can join from anywhere in the world. See you September!

    DrZWave | July 30, 2020 at 8:22 pm | Tags: WorksWith | Categories: 700 series, Best Practice, Coding Guides, News, Presentations, Summit, Z-Wave Controllers, Z-Wave Developers, Z-Wave Mesh, Z-Wave Network, Z-Wave Slaves, Z-Wave Users | URL: https://wp.me/p6tsK6-o5
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    Z-Wave Works With Amazon, Google, Samsung, Apple, Comcast Virtual Conference

    Z-Wave Works With Amazon, Google, Samsung, Apple, Comcast Virtual Conference

    Works With Amazon, Google, Apple and more Smart Home EcoSystem vendors. Learn how to design your product to work with these 800 pound gorillas

    General Discussion

  • Is there a projected date for the release of v 1.0 of MSR?
    Black CatB Black Cat

    @toggledbits

    Is there a release date for MSR v1.0?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • First post to say hello
    Black CatB Black Cat

    Thanks for changing to white, now it's all readable..... I really struggle with dark backgrounds.

    General Discussion

  • Cheapest platform on which to run MSR
    Black CatB Black Cat

    With the new Raspberry Pi Imager you can configure the boot sequence and user when you download (format) the card or SSD.
    Click on the settings Icon (lower righthand side) that will give you access to setting User Names, SSH and more..
    Make sure you use the Rasp Pi downloader for this and its a breeze.

    I suggest you just throw caution to the wind and buy a SSD, they aren't that much more expensive than a SD Card.
    The Pi4 makes it all worth while

    Multi-System Reactor

  • CORE by Oh-La LABS
    Black CatB Black Cat

    Seems reminiscent to something that happened on another forum recently?
    It's a long path to success, just the battle to get regional certifications puts many great ideas in the "too hard basket".
    It's also scant on hardware support.
    For my money I'd be heading in the software direction and allow users to choose their own Hardware.
    Anyway, good luck to them, judging by their road map they will have system up. running and be market ready head of EZLO.

    General Discussion

  • Advances made in Presence Detection?
    Black CatB Black Cat

    OK, the price differences are because of the different systems that they can be used with.
    The E276 is for Dali - that is a very professional lighting system. I agree, I would just wave my hands about however for installations in large buildings it's a very clever way to control lighting intensity - Building Management Systems are a very different animal.
    E79 for Wifi or Zigbee isn't a deal breaker and in fact can be a a very clever way of light control in a Smart House without the complication of additional systems.
    Looking forward to unwrapping the box when it arrives....watch this space.

    General Discussion

  • HVAC Control
    Black CatB Black Cat

    I'm using Broadlink's, both the RM Pro and Mini, inexpensive and easy to use. I have 2 Pros and 1 Mini, they have been rock solid for years.
    Still using the old Broadlink Vera PlugIn (you all know the one that the author had a dummy spit and took his bat and ball with him after patrick pointed out some problems with his code 🙂 )
    There is/was a problem with the latest RM4 in so much that the existing Plugins didn't work with it, not sure if that ever got sorted out.
    The work around now is to use Node-Red with the RM4's
    As for controlling sensors, I just got an old Remotec for OAT positioned under the eaves cobbled together with Reactor and Site Sensor (for local AP Weather).

    Hardware

  • Sunset with offset didn't run
    Black CatB Black Cat

    Stop thinking PLEG......It will only frustrate you especially if you are trying to test the status of a device.
    I'm not sure if you can actually do it as you would in PLEG, yes, I know it's frustrating but to move forward you need to unlearn what you already know.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • 3D Printers - What to get in your opinion?
    Black CatB Black Cat

    I'm surprised there is no love either, guess the time that Vera takes to maintain doesn't allow for other activities.........:)

    General Discussion

  • Dumb question about bulbs
    Black CatB Black Cat

    If space is an issue you can also fit the module at the light fitting. It's a common method when there isn't a Neutral at the switch and a Neutral optional relay isn't on hand.
    I won't comment any further on wiring rules as I'm quoting AUS/NZ not UK which will be different and may confuse.
    I'll moov to the next topic now...... 🙂

    Hardware

  • Moving MSR to Docker
    Black CatB Black Cat

    It indents correctly, just the way the it copied over.
    I'm planning on reinstalling this over the weekend there must be 'hidden" characters that somehow have been transposed.
    Better to start with a clean sheet.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • I'm bored :D
    Black CatB Black Cat

    I invested in a 3D Printer...eventually.
    Turns out there not that expensive after all. +1 to a Ender V2. Easy to put together and great youtube support.
    The hardest part has been learning CAD- Autodesk, probably should say the most frustrating part, but now fairly conversant and can design complex designs.
    That was my winter, now we are looking at Spring & Summer and the end of lockdown.
    The EnderV2 is turning out adapters and wall brackets, quality is better than good and is merchantable.

    General Discussion

  • Nest thermostat alternative...
    Black CatB Black Cat

    @akbooer said in Nest thermostat alternative...:

    I’m not so much besotted by the fact that they use WiFi, it’s just the ease of setup, integration within the system, and general ‘fit and forget’... it just couldn’t be further from Zwave in that regard.

    @akbooer
    I was very skeptical about Shelly when they first came out; WiFi --phutt why bother, it has to be Z-Wave I thought - How wrong could I be.
    After using the Dimmer 2 I couldn't get enough of them.
    How is it that Z-Wave could be so convoluted in setting up when a relative new comer to the market makes it so simple?
    My thoughts - FWIW - Z-wave has become over complicated that even professional installers baulk at the mention of Z-Wave and are turning to KNX systems because they know they won't get phone calls or call outs about latency - realistically KNX does not cost that much more than Z-Wave and you can sleep at night knowing the system works instantly.
    Best of all is that there are KNX plugins for most systems and you can take advantage of all protocols - after all it is IOT :}

    Hardware

  • Cheapest platform on which to run MSR
    Black CatB Black Cat

    @toggledbits said in Cheapest platform on which to run MSR:

    I want to add that I've been using a (Raspberry Pi) Compute Module 4 with 8GB EMMC on board

    Way to go, unfortunately for me, the CM4 I/O board is the only part available. The Compute Module 4 is OOS (all versions), sigh.....
    BTW, I love the case.....makes it all look very professional.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Incrementing an outside awning with Reactor/MSR
    Black CatB Black Cat

    @librasun said in Incrementing an outside awning with Reactor/MSR:

    I hope this helps

    It certainly does ( and implemented), any idea how to tie this in with my original idea of following the sun's position?

    General Discussion

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    Black CatB Black Cat

    @Trexx
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    Vera

  • Quality of Life Request: Update Button
    Black CatB Black Cat

    +1
    Requested this way back when MSR was just getting on it's feet.

    Multi-System Reactor
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