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HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
Home Assistant
How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
S
I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
therealdbT
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
Zigbee
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
Multi-System Reactor
[HowTo] Using HABridge with Reactor
therealdbT
If you’re like me and still running HABridge to control your devices locally via Alexa, you might need to tweak your endpoints to call Reactor via HTTP. Here’s the best way to do it, IMO: Insert the Reactor Canonical ID (e.g., zwavejs>71-1) into the MapID field, but make sure it’s URL-encoded like this: zwavejs%3E71-1. Then, configure these endpoints as needed: On: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.on Off: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/power_switch.off Dim: For lights: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/dimming.set?level=${intensity.decimal_percent} For roller shutters: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/position.set?value=${intensity.decimal_percent} Color: http://[ReactorIP]:8111/api/v1/entity/${device.mapId}/perform/rgb_color.set_rgb?red=${color.r}&green=${color.g}&blue=${color.b} Just replace [ReactorIP] with your actual IP address. By using these placeholders, you can standardize your endpoints across all devices, making maintenance easier. This setup works with any device mapped under MSR, regardless of the controller (ZWaveJS, Vera, HASS, OpenSprinkler, virtual, MQTT, DynamicEntities, etc.). If you need different calls, just go to the entities, get the action and parameters, and adjust accordingly. Enjoy super fast access to your devices via Alexa! If you're migrating from Vera, the endpoints are (URL-encoded) in a file called device.db, in JSON format, under your config. You'd write a script to align the new endpoints to the new one, if you prefer to do it automatically. YMMV.
How-To
[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
therealdbT
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
Multi-System Reactor
Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
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Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
PablaP
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
CatmanV2C
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  • Docker container for Z-Way
    PerHP PerH

    Its been a while since i've used this now, I've moved to Z-WaveJS..
    Socat - so you have a remote connection to your z-stick? Should work fine with this contatiner, just set it up in the docker-compose file.
    That said, I would ask on the z-way forum, you may find a more current z-way version in a newer container..

    All settings should be persistent if volumes are set up correctly.

    Z-Wave.me

  • Nuke Vera Script
    PerHP PerH

    I havent needed Socat, just using Z2MQTT in a docker, and it connects to the vera just fine over network.. I ended up retiring the vera in the end in favour of UZB and Z-Stick, as some functions and security didn't work, but basic z-wave works well.

    Vera

  • Considering changing to HA - but what installation method?
    PerHP PerH

    I know nothing about synology, but I do have a setup (at the cabin) that uses an old "nuked" VeraPlus for z-wave and zigbee, and it works flawlessly. I suppose this would be just as easy to do with a synology, bypassing the whole USB interface?

    Home Assistant

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    I appreciate both the strictness regarding code and the lesson in javascript. Thanks!

    I've found out why my "MaxInInterval" didn't work in the original post, and what that "Force re-evaluation..." tickbox on the reactions does!

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    (to type it out, I changed the variable in reaction, and naturally, the only variable being updated was the one called out..)

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    I'd be happy to!

    in the original post you see my expression: if NotificationSent != "true" then, which is supposed to reset the maximum reading when notification is sent, and prepare for a new increase when more wood is applied.

    This never fired when the condition was met, but when I changed it to if NotificationSent != "1" then, (with the same change in the reactions) it worked as intended. The variable was still interpreted as a string.

    My theory was that this was caused by the special considerations for the word "true" in the interpreter somehow, and that the ${{ true }} in the reaction would solve the problem.

    That may offcourse be wrong? I admit that the imperical basis is rather thin. 😉

    I should be able to reproduce this if needed.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    Considering this solved, but would like to add that its a bit important to mark "true" and "false" as depicted above here, and not using them in string form.
    Using "true" in string form in the condition like in "MaxInInterval" in the initial post didn't work, the condition didn't flip when the state changed.
    I guess this is because of how these reserved words are interpreted, so tagging them as boolean is important.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    The rule is corrected and works well:
    35bcdc03-5131-419d-95b4-68b00a675fec-image.png

    It notifies once for each time the temperature has increased, only with temperatures above 100°C, and when i'm home..

    The NotificationSent value wasn't nessecary here, But i'm still wondering if one can define a variable type and set the start value, and later manupulate that value by a reaction?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    BTW, in the screenshots we see that the NotificationSent has fired, and is now interpreted as a string..

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Expressions - predefining a variable type
    PerHP PerH

    I have a use case where I need to have a boolean variable that will be set to true/false by reactions.

    I see that i can define a local variable by giving it a name and leaving the definition empty. This leaves it at state "null" until a reaction tells it that its a boolean.

    Is there a way to tell it that it should start out as "false" (i.e when reactor has restarted), and not null?

    Am i going about this the wrong way?

    -- The use case is that I have a sensor on my fireplace, and the following logic is for notifying when its time to get up en refill with firewood.. I also want to reset the MaxInInterval to CurrentTemp when notification is sent..

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    Edit: better screenhots. Reactor version 23010-7dd2c9e9

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Super newbie here. Need help with lots of stuff
    PerHP PerH

    Hello amnd,

    It seems to me that the appropriate "assistant" for you is "Home Assistant". 😉

    HA is an automation system that has integrations for a lot of IoT devices, and the latest versions is getting much easier to set up as well.

    It is however an open source project, which means that it may be a challenge to get going if you have no experience with things like raspberry Pi's or Linux.

    HA is also working on their own controller, but as of now people mostly run it on mini-PC's or similar.

    if you're completely green on electronics and coding, perhaps Homey is a better bet.

    when you have a system like this, you can connect to appliances and IoT in different ways, it all depends on how smart the devices are, and how the company that makes them integrates to other systems.

    Regarding speakers, you get all kinds of wifi speaker systems, depending on where an how you want it.

    Most automation controllers can be reached from outside the home through an app. This system can in practice be your alarm system if you connect motion and door/window sensors. 🙂

    How-To

  • Zigbee Smart bridge
    PerHP PerH

    How is the setup today? If you have a wired switch today, I would recommend to have a "pill" type switch/dimmer behind that switch, and a Pi(or some mini-computer) with a USB-Zigbee controller.

    Zigbee

  • Finally gave up on my Ezlo Plus
    PerHP PerH

    In other words, you stopped and deleted the Ezlo SW? In that case, installing ser2net should be a breeze? It would be cool to try running JS UI on it, I'd give it a go if you show me the door in. 🙂

    Blogs

  • Finally gave up on my Ezlo Plus
    PerHP PerH

    I still have the "prototype" Ezlo plus in a box somewhere, any chance of "nuking" it like the Vera Plus? Zigbee and Z-wave 700 chip could be useful..

    @toggledbits, the only reason I use Z-wave JS UI into HASS is that i use the HASS visualization on phones and UI panels, that would have to be replaced by helpers/virtuals if I were to take it into MSR instead?
    I could offcourse feed both MSR and HASS from JS UI, but that seems like a bit of a waste of bandwidth? dunno..

    Blogs

  • [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?
    PerHP PerH

    @gwp1 : Yes, I've seen (100s!) of those, no problem there! 😉

    I just had this notion that there was some other function in place, where if a device was gone, it would prompt you "This entity is gone, select replacement here", and that this would do replacement of all uses of that entity/device.

    To the other discussion:
    My problems started when I moved ALL devices to a new system, as in all entity addresses changed.
    I have previously been on the same MSR version for long periods of time without any issues, so I very much doubt any "planned obsolesence". 😉

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Docker container for Z-Way
    PerHP PerH

    Ok, so what firmware do you have? You've used this stick before?

    The firmware stuff is a bit of a mess, look at this thread..

    As I discovered; There is a Bridge firmware for using the stick without z-way, and a regular one for Z-Way. Mabye you have the bridge one?

    Don't think you have area troubles, EU is part of the most common firmware..

    Z-Wave.me

  • Notifications to HA App via Reactor?
    PerHP PerH

    One workaround would perhaps be to have a helper in HASS that MSR can trigger, which in HASS initiates a notification? Haven't gone in to this myself yet, still using telegram..

    Multi-System Reactor

  • [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?
    PerHP PerH

    @Matohl - If you're thinking about when the only way to make actions happen is the "play" button next to each individual action, I really doubt that its by design, nor being an automated way to say that an update is available. My system had a cascade of dead entities, and I suspect that had something to do with it.

    The proper thing to do in that case is to save logs/setup files and open a mantis ticket, just like I didn't here. 😉 That how bugs disappear.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Another transition from Vera to OpenLuup And now to HASS - PerH
    PerHP PerH

    After about 7 years in the Vera/openLuup world i've now moved on to a home assistant installation. This was rather reluctantly, as openLuup has served me well with very few issues (other than ones I created myself off course!). A big thanks to @akbooer and all contributors for all the good work with this software!

    The main reason for jumping the fence to HASS was in short all the integrations and UI possibilities. The device handling for Zigbee and RFXtrx is also developing to be really good, and is still maintained.
    There is still plenty of annoying bugs/imperfections with HASS, but the maturity is at a level where most of what I need works well enough.
    My system is now:

    • HASS Container
      • Z-wave JS UI for z-wave (Still prefer Z-Way here, but the integration isn't good there yet)
      • ZHA for zigbee
      • RFXTRX plugin for 433
      • HASS Configurator for UI file editor for both HASS and MSR configuration files
    • MSR for all automations
    • Grafana and InfluxDB 1.8 (upgrading to 2.0 in a while)

    So far so good! 🙂

    Blogs

  • [Solved] Big change in my system - How to update MSR as best as possible?
    PerHP PerH

    Sorry about that, I just had a slight hope for a "you just forgot to push that button" kind of answer..

    In any case, I cleaned out my rules over the board and updated the MSR image, and now it's running like a charm..

    For future reference, is there in fact a "this entity is now gone from the system, choose a replacement" function, or did i just dream that one? If not, it would be a great addition! 🙂

    Again, a big thankyou to @toggledbits for sharing this great machine!

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Docker container for Z-Way
    PerHP PerH

    That one is OK, it's related to the UI in some way, and not the stick..

    Very strange that you have contact to the stick, but can't include? that part usually works flawlessly, I don't use the expert panel for that though, as the other UI has a naming wizard for the units..

    Z-Wave.me
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