I have never observed this, Are you sure it isn't a network problem (switch maybe?)
I have an oven that I need to manage the temperature of, keeping it in the neighborhood of 600° C (1100° F). I have not been able to find a Zigbee-enabled solution to measure temps that high. Does anyone know if such a thing exists? If not, any ideas for how to roll a custom solution that I could integrate into a Sonoff ihost controller? I have no trouble finding high temperature probes, but none of them interface with my automation stack.
I've managed to use MSR UI on iOS devices to some degree*, so that although UI elements (e.g. rule sets) are not visible in portrait mode, you've seen them in landscape. Now with recents builds (24302) this does not work anymore, elements (rule sets, entities) are not anymore visible in landscape mode.
Does anyone have similar experiences? Using iOS 18 and Safari/Chrome browser.
( *Drag & drop of rule conditions have never worked on a mobile)
Hi All
Hopefully this place looks like a helpful forum as I’m quite new to all this!
I’ve had a few devices all working separately /through their proprietary apps but we’re just finishing off a large house extension and this has added to the list.
I’d ideally like to be able to view/switch a number of different devices on one screen/head end but have no idea where to start.
The devices we have/will have shortly are as follows;
Zigbee Smart Sockets
Zigbee smart switches (for lights)
Heatmiser Neo Underfloor Heating (this runs from a Samsung ASHP but that part is automatic)
Samsung VRF air conditioning (currently using Smart Things App)
Hive (2xLTHW heating circuits in the existing house and Hot Water)
Ring (doorbell!)
Hik Vision PoE CCTV
We have lots of appliances (Neff N70) which we can control remotely but not too fussed about controlling those at the
Moment)
Any help/recommendations would be appreciated!
Thanks
Adrian
After a major hassle got z-way running on my ubuntu 16 VM with a USB pasthough UZB1 stick including license and connected to Vera...
I see:
I also see:
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But how do I update that?
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I have a legacy home automation set-up running on Windows XP. the computer and software have now died.
I have written a very nice Excel VBA program to replace the software and it can run on any modern Windows system.
My only remaining problem is to output the correct signal to a USB port to trigger the wireless switches.
Has anybody done a similar exercise. Please help.
The locksmith is trying to persuade me to purchase the BE-TECH K35 touchscreen lock with both Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, claiming it's better than the Yale Assure Lock 2. What are your thoughts on this? Which one would you recommend?
Here is the link to the Chinese brand BE-TECH: BE-TECH Smart Deadbolt K3S.
The other smart lock I am considering is the Schlage Encode Plus.
Thank you!
Hi @toggledbits,
I have lots of logs with this:
<Engine:ERR> Assignment to alarm ignored -- expression-driven global cannot be set by assignmentAny hints to where look at to avoid this? Thanks.
Hi @toggledbits
I'd like to update my controllers with these new features, but I'm struggling to find any guidance in the docs - and in general to understand the context.
Could you please elaborate more? Thanks.
Hi All,
Kind of new to Home Automation. Started off Using Amazon Echo units and added a Samsung SmartThings hub. I have mostly been using plug in modules for turning lights on and off. I live in a very rural area where the internet goes out a lot. I eventually want to change to to a non internet Hub so things will work without needing an internet connection. But I will post with those questions at a later date.
So, the task at hand is this: I have flood lights at each corner of my house. They are currently controlled by switches at the front and back doors. I would like to add Security Cameras to each corner also. I can easily find small Wifi switches to put into the electrical box where the flood lights are located, then I can terminate the leads together behind the Decora switch to have constant power. Then I can use the constant power up at the lights electrical box to power the security cameras. I would also like to have a wireless switch to take the place of the Decora switch to be able to turn the lights off and on.
I cannot seem to find a product like this. It seems I can find the small wired in switch boxes that will also come with external smart wall switches, but the wall switches are an external box that does not fit in or cover the existing Wall switch electrical box. I can also find Wireless Decora switches that come with a remote wired in small switch box , but they all seem to be RF and do not integrate with a Smart Hub.
I am hoping someone here knows of a product that matches what I am looking for. Any help would be appreciated.
Also any recommendations for Wireless Security cameras are welcome.
Thanks for any help.
Hello,
I have a fresh openluup install on a raspberry.
Just installed "Vera Bridge" plugin, but I can't make it to work.
The plugin can not load the device infos from the vera.
This is what I can see in the OpenLuup log :
openLuup.client:: WGET error status: -1, request: http://192.168.1.2/port_3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
I have tried it from a console on the same raspberry this way :
wget http://192.168.1.2:3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
It worked, so I think it's not credential or network issue.
What can be the solution for this ?
more openluup log :
408 lines, 1 error, max gap 61s @ 2022-08-12 20:51:01.568
2022-08-12 19:21:24.150 :: openLuup LOG ROTATION :: (runtime 0.0 days)
2022-08-12 19:21:24.154 openLuup.init:: init phase completed
2022-08-12 19:21:24.155 openLuup.io.server:: starting HTTP:3480 server on port: 3480 tcp{server}: 0x1c48ee8
2022-08-12 19:21:24.157 openLuup.io.server:: starting SMTP server on port: 2525 tcp{server}: 0x1b461d8
2022-08-12 19:21:24.158 openLuup.io.server:: starting POP3 server on port: 11011 tcp{server}: 0x1b48780
2022-08-12 19:21:24.158 openLuup.historian:: starting data historian
2022-08-12 19:21:24.159 openLuup.historian:: using memory cache size (per-variable): 1024
2022-08-12 19:21:24.168 openLuup.scheduler:: starting
2022-08-12 19:21:24.169 openLuup.scheduler:: [2] openLuup device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.170 luup_log:2: v22.7.31
2022-08-12 19:21:24.171 luup_log:2: sync in 35.8 s
2022-08-12 19:21:24.190 luup.variable_watch:: callback=housemode_watcher, watching=2.openLuup.HouseMode
2022-08-12 19:21:24.191 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_email, request=openLuup@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.191 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_images, request=images@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.192 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_events, request=events@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.192 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=openLuup_mailbox, request=mail@openLuup.local
2022-08-12 19:21:24.193 luup.chdev.append:: [AltAppStore] Alternate App Store
2022-08-12 19:21:24.193 luup.chdev.sync:: [2] openLuup, syncing children
2022-08-12 19:21:24.194 luup_log:2: starting MQTT $SYS/broker statistics
2022-08-12 19:21:24.196 luup_log:2: 3Mb, 2.1%cpu, 0.0days
2022-08-12 19:21:24.211 openLuup.scheduler:: [2] openLuup device startup completed: status=true, msg=sync in 35.8 s, name=L_openLuup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.212 openLuup.scheduler:: [3] Alternate UI device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.212 luup_log:3: ALTUI: initstatus(3) starting version: v2.54
2022-08-12 19:21:24.214 openLuup.scheduler:: [3] Alternate UI device startup completed: status=, msg=, name=
2022-08-12 19:21:24.214 openLuup.scheduler:: [7] VeraBridge device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.215 luup_log:7: VeraBridge
2022-08-12 19:21:24.215 luup_log:7: 2021.01.03
2022-08-12 19:21:24.216 luup_log:7: 192.168.1.2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.216 luup_log:7: device clone numbering starts at 10000
2022-08-12 19:21:24.217 luup_log:7: VeraBridge maps remote Zwave controller
2022-08-12 19:21:24.218 luup_log:7: v21.1.3
2022-08-12 19:21:24.242 openLuup.client:: WGET error status: -1, request: http://192.168.1.2/port_3480/data_request?id=user_data2&output_format=json&ns=1
2022-08-12 19:21:24.242 luup.set_failure:: status = 2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.243 luup.variable_set:: 7.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 2 now: 2 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.244 luup.variable_set:: 7.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 1660323316 now: 1660324884 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.246 luup_log:7: registering with AltUI [3] as Data Storage Provider
2022-08-12 19:21:24.247 luup.register_handler:: global_function_name=HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2, request=HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2
2022-08-12 19:21:24.249 luup.call_action:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.RegisterDataProvider
2022-08-12 19:21:24.260 openLuup.scheduler:: [7] VeraBridge device startup completed: status=, msg=No Vera, name=VeraBridge
2022-08-12 19:21:24.261 openLuup.scheduler:: [4] Alternate App Store device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.261 luup_log:4: AltAppStore : starting...
2022-08-12 19:21:24.262 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DisplayLine1 was: AltAppStore now: AltAppStore #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.263 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DisplayLine2 was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.264 luup_log:4: AltAppStore : v20.3.30
2022-08-12 19:21:24.264 luup.set_failure:: status = 0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.265 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.266 luup.variable_set:: 4.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.267 openLuup.scheduler:: [4] Alternate App Store device startup completed: status=true, msg=OK, name=AltAppStore
2022-08-12 19:21:24.268 openLuup.scheduler:: [5] Harmony Hub Control device startup
2022-08-12 19:21:24.280 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:rboer-com:serviceId:Harmony1.LinkStatus was: Ok now: Starting... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.281 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:rboer-com:serviceId:Harmony1.IconSet was: 0 now: 3 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.282 luup.attr_set:: 5.altid = HAM5_CNTRL
2022-08-12 19:21:24.326 luup.set_failure:: status = 0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.326 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailure was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.327 luup.variable_set:: 5.urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:HaDevice1.CommFailureTime was: 0 now: 0 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.328 openLuup.scheduler:: [5] Harmony Hub Control device startup completed: status=true, msg=OK, name=Harmony Control
2022-08-12 19:21:24.332 luup_log:3: ALTUI: UPNPregisterDataProvider(3,Vera@192.168.1.2,http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2,[{
"default":"device.serviceId.name",
"key":"mirror",
"label":"Mirror",
"type":"text"
}])
2022-08-12 19:21:24.337 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... now: {"Vera@192.168.1.2":{"url":"http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2","callback":... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.360 openLuup.io.server:: HTTP:3480 connection from 192.168.1.24 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.363 openLuup.server:: GET /data_request?id=lu_status2&output_format=json&DataVersion=323312852&Timeout=60&MinimumDelay=1500&=1660323303557 HTTP/1.1 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.646 openLuup.server:: request completed (34267 bytes, 3 chunks, 280 ms) tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:24.648 openLuup.io.server:: HTTP:3480 connection from 192.168.1.24 tcp{client}: 0x1d6a9b0
2022-08-12 19:21:24.661 openLuup.server:: GET /data_request?id=user_data&output_format=json&DataVersion=323312340&=1660323303558 HTTP/1.1 tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:25.252 openLuup.server:: request completed (70135 bytes, 5 chunks, 588 ms) tcp{client}: 0x1d21868
2022-08-12 19:21:25.253 luup_log:3: ALTUI: startupDeferred, called on behalf of device:3
2022-08-12 19:21:25.338 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.Version was: v2.54 now: v2.54 #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.934 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"Vera@192.168.1.2":{"url":"http://127.0.0.1:3480/data_request?id=lr_HTTP_VeraBridgeMirror_192.168.1.2","callback":... now: {"thingspeak":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_thingspeak","parameters":[{"type":"number","key":"channelid"... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.964 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"thingspeak":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_thingspeak","parameters":[{"type":"number","key":"channelid"... now: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.996 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.DataStorageProviders was: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... now: {"emoncms":{"url":"","callback":"sendValueToStorage_emoncms","parameters":[{"default":1,"type":"number","key":"node... #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:25.999 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.VariablesToSend was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.009 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.RemoteVariablesToWatch was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.010 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.VariablesToWatch was: now: #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.012 luup.variable_set:: 3.urn:upnp-org:serviceId:altui1.Timers was: [] now: [] #hooks:0
2022-08-12 19:21:26.013 luup_log:3: ALTUI: Wkflow - enableWorkflows(3,0,0)
Thank You.
d.
I have the following ACL defined:
groups: admin: users: - admin applications: true api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: trueAnd I have authenticated to MSR as "admin" user. However, I'm getting "access denied" when trying to access http://*******:8111/api/v1/log
So what I'm missing, is my ACL incorrectly defined?
Using build 24302 on Docker.
Sorry if this has been covered before, just curious why triggers in openluup are not consistent..
I looked at a scene i’d created a while back via ALTUI using the Console view and noticed it didn’t show any Triggers, which was strange as it was my main front door event 🙂 . So I added the door tripped trigger again, but I’ve just noticed I now how two tiggers using this view.
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In ALTUI it shows this.
Thanks to @toggledbits for adding a custom CSS. I've started doing a darker Reactor style.
Here's the file: https://gist.github.com/dbochicchio/825098ac13b7f8cac22012eae37ff7ce
A couple of things are still too bright and I'll eventually catch-up. Just place it under your /config directory, naming the file as customstyles.css. Hard refresh your browser.
AK. Was doing an openLuup install and the installer errored with:
openLuup_install 2019.02.15 @akbooer getting openLuup version tar file from GitHub branch master... un-zipping download files... getting dkjson.lua... lua5.1: openLuup_install.lua:45: GitHub download failed with code 500 stack traceback: [C]: in function 'assert' openLuup_install.lua:45: in main chunk [C]: ?The installer code was executing this URL:
http://dkolf.de/src/dkjson-lua.fsl/raw/dkjson.lua?name=16cbc26080996d9da827df42cb0844a25518eeb3Running it manually gives:
dkolf.de The script could not be run error-free. Please check your error log file for the exact error message. You can find this in the KIS under "Product Management > *YOUR PRODUCT* > *CONFYGUAR* > Logfiles". Further information can be found in our FAQ. The script could not be executed correctly. Please refer to your error log for details about this error. You find it in your KIS under item "Product Admin > *YOUR PRODUCT* > *CONFIGURE* > Logfiles". Further information can also be found in our FAQ.I'm thinking the dkjson code URL has been changed. On dkolf.de there is a download link:
http://dkolf.de/dkjson-lua/dkjson-2.8.luaand dkjson code also seems to be in GitHub (I presume this is the same code?):
https://github.com/LuaDist/dkjson/blob/master/dkjson.luaI'm don't know what dkolf.de looked like previously but I do see the dkjson code has been updated as of 2024-06-17. Hope this helps.
Oh - and by the way the dkjson.lua file seems to have been downloaded OK by the installer - error or no error, so go figure.
Dear Forum,
I am just starting a smart home system. I've wanted to do this for 10 years at most and really would like to get a start. What I have are a couple of SONOFF wifi relays, some 433 (Hz/mHz) switches ( not wifi ) a couple of wifi lightbulbs, and I'd like to expand wifi thermostat, leak/water detectors, garage door openers and what ever else I can think of.
In the SONOFF items I have it's a particular app, the wifi bulbs are another app, and if I do a thermostat there might be another app. My wife is not a Luddite but she damn sure doesn't want to have to trouble shoot if/why a particular app breaks down.
So in what I do understand about smart home things is that I need/want a HUB. I spent 15 years doing some programming so I do have some computer ability, though I'd prefer to stay away from HAVING to line command operate the hub.
I would like a list of HUB's that people have found to be the best. Even better are links to let's say Amazon for that hub.
Regards from Noob Smart Home,
Barry
Hi!
In Home Assistant I sometimes uses the TTS, either to my Sonos or Google speakers. With reactor in Vera I also use TTS.
But in MSR I can't select the TTS-service. It's simply not there. Am I missing something, or is this the case, so far?
Thanks!
/Fanan
It’s been a while since I looked at openLuup as it had been running nicely and quietly in the background doing some basic tasks. With my VeraPlus looking like it’s finally succumbing to old age, I want to shift a number of the global module I have over to openLuup.
To do this, I have added the files (example would be xxpushover.lua to the cmh-ludl folder and the following to the startup
require “xxpushover”
The xxpushover.lua file itself starts with the following..
module("xxpushover", package.seeall)
And I always have a line in these files to allow me to check it’s been read in the start up related logs, which in this case it is..
The challenge I’m having is that when I try to call any of the functions within the module, it returns the following error..
"[string "ALTUI - LuaRunHandler"]:1: attempt to index global 'xxpushover' (a nil value)”
I’m no doubt missing something obvious, can anyone help me find out what it is ? Many thanks
Hi
I have just connected a bunch of EzloPi controllers to MSR to import some ESP based devices etc.
They all seemed to have worked and imported in to MSR apart from I have one missing device. It is a Digital Gas Sensor device.
This is how that device looks in the Ezlo API.
Devices Info:
_id: "10696001" deviceTypeId: "ezlopi" parentDeviceId: "10696000" category: "level_sensor" subcategory: "" gatewayId: "457a5069" batteryPowered: false name: "Gas Sensor Digital" type: "sensor" reachable: true persistent: true serviceNotification: false armed: false roomId: "" security: "no" ready: true status: "idle" parentRoom: true protectConfig: "default"Items Info:
_id: "20696001" deviceId: "10696001" hasGetter: true hasSetter: false name: "smoke_density" show: true valueType: "substance_amount" scale: "parts_per_million" value: 2.7472610473632812 valueFormatted: "2.75" status: "idle"There is also an Analog Gas sensor that one did import in to MSR OK.
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Devices Info:
_id: "10696000" deviceTypeId: "ezlopi" parentDeviceId: "10696000" category: "security_sensor" subcategory: "gas" gatewayId: "457a5069" batteryPowered: false name: "Gas Sensor Analog" type: "sensor" reachable: true persistent: true serviceNotification: false armed: false roomId: "" security: "no" ready: true status: "idle" parentRoom: true protectConfig: "default"Items Info:
_id: "20696000" deviceId: "10696000" hasGetter: true hasSetter: false name: "gas_alarm" show: true valueType: "token" enum: 0: "no_gas" 1: "combustible_gas_detected" 2: "toxic_gas_detected" 3: "unknown" valueFormatted: "no_gas" value: "no_gas" status: "idle"And this is how this MQ2 Gas Sensor looks like on their dashboard:
Digital
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Analog
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They have an EzloPi website here you can create your own sensor projects using ESP boards, which is very interesting stuff!
And I just wrote on the Ezlo forum here, how to connect an EzloPi controller to MSR.
THANKS.
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here.
Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.A couple of things for you @toggledbits, since you mentioned that this release has new features and some tweaks are expected.
Local expressions cannot be deleted. Pushing the X button has no effect for me.
When cloning an entity action, the result is strange (first is cloned one, second is the original action):
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When changing the action on the cloned element, the params are added to the original one. See screenshot:
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Dark theme has a couple of strange contrasts. One is visible in the previous screenshots (white text on yellow background). Another one is in groups (blue text on blue background):
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Overall, I found blue, yellow, red and green (in buttons and forms) to be too bright.
On the bright side:
I love the new script action: thank you! The dark theme is a great start to avoid getting blinded at night I promise I'll try very soon the new features around actions. Thanks!rafale77
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Interesting! I have moved and have taken down my entire system. It will be a few months before I get a new one up and running but it does indeed look like the noise level is quite a bit lower. Not sure if it is due to reporting differences or if it true noise decrease.
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I have been mostly silent on this forum for some time now with the exception of the occasional notifications for questions addressed to me because I just moved to a new house and my system had been rock solid for over a year... mostly since I got rid of the vera.
I now have to re-build everything from scratch in my new house while I had literally zero reliability issues with my previous setup in spite of its complexity (200+ devices integrated running 3 different software platform interconnected between z-way for zwave, Homeassistant for AI/cameras and the rare cloud integrations or integrations not existing on openLuup/vera and openLuup for scenes/automation/control interface.)
I considered long and hard to sell my old home with the automation but at the end I decided to move as much as I could over mostly because I noticed an increasing trend of the industry to go towards wifi for ease of setup but which cannot scale to large installations and have to encroach into wifi bandwidth. It is getting a bit harder to buy zwave and even zigbee devices. I also didn't want to spend the time to go through the learning curve of hubitat which would have yielded no benefit to my setup.
Dumping the vera was the single biggest improvement to my system and please, no ezlo... They are cost reduced and downgraded controllers to the vera in every important practical aspect.My new setup will be much lighter. Probably will not get to 175 zwave nodes, more likely <100 without the window coverings, fewer lights, fewer sensors. Heck I think I will dump the Phillips hue altogether too. I can't recommend enough migrating away from vera and go to openLuup or MSR in combination with Home Assistant for zigbee and integrations and z-way for z-wave while keeping devices as local as possible by avoiding all the wifi stuff which tend to be cloud dependent (with all their reliability and security disadvantages) and less efficient both in power and RF bandwidth. Still a new adventure...
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My ring doorbell fell victim of my cloud dependance eradication project a few years ago, so I can't help with that one. I can only recommend replacing it with the one I am using... Superior in every way by offering a local 3MP RTSP stream, 5GHz wifi. It's already 3 years old but I haven't found anything better since. The only thing I wish it had is H.265 encoding. Mine is still going strong and is integrated into my system. I run facial recognition on it to trigger a variety of scenes on openLuup.
It is the single most active doorbell thread in this forum:
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Indeed! An ethernet network requires a router... or at least you need a DHCP server for these hubs (normally a function of any router and present in most managed ethernet switches).
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Euhh, I think something is amiss here. Why running everything off of Zigbee have anything to do with getting internet in the future? If you get a hubitat, your hub will be hubitat. Wifi is just a different type of wireless network communication like zigbee and zwave. They just work on different protocols and frequencies and have different purposes:
WIFI or WLAN is meant for high bandwidth, high power devices like your mobile computer and is meant to offer a bandwidth as close as possible to the wired ethernet (LAN) network it is piggy backed to. Not the most appropriate for smarthomes and especially for battery operated devices because it consumes more power and each device uses bandwidth. Given how little bandwidth smarthome device require, the communication overhead associated with WIFI makes it very wasteful but at this day in age, some people may have plenty of wifi bandwidth to use...
Zwave is a dedicated smarthome protocol which has a fairly good universality mostly due to the fact that it was controller by a single company. Devices tend to be more expensive as a result but prices have been dropping.
Zigbee is another dedicated smarthome protocol but it operates in the same wireless frequency band as WIFI. It is more opened and a lot of companies are involved in maintaining it and therefore has taken off quite nicely.
Zigbee and Zwave require a controller like Hubitat which also need to connect a wired network through ethernet. The controller would have both the radio and small computer on board in which you would setup a software from which to control your devices.
WIFI on the other hand, because of the ubiquity of its use, reuses the radio either on your WIFI router or WIFI access point but usually sends the controlling software out in the cloud so you would need internet access. There are also platforms which enables WIFI devices to be controller locally with a software you would download from the internet.Internet Access and WIFI are not the same. You can have internet access without WIFI or WIFI without internet access. Typically internet access comes in through a MODEM be it from Cable, Telephone or Fibre. There also now 4G/LTE Modem which enable connection to the cellular internet service which would be slower and more expensive and then output it through wire.
Your smarthome fundamentally doesn't need WIFI or internet access but you do need a home wired network in any case to be able to access your controller. Adding WIFI or internet later has no impact whatsoever on your Zwave or Zigbee setup.
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Most of us use both for flexibility. Zigbee has cheaper devices and some devices only exist on zigbee. Z-wave also has some unique devices. Since you won't have wifi, you probably don't care that Zigbee interferes with Wifi but also microwave ovens, BT and most cordless phones.... Wifi is a very inefficient protocol for RF. Z-wave is the most efficient from an energy consumption and RF emission perspective, closely followed by Zigbee. I avoid wifi smarthome devices myself because they are fundamentally a waste of bandwidth and energy.
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I didn't test extroot on the verasecure because I didn't have one to try it on. I think others on the forum did it and reported to work fine. There is nothing about the vera secure which makes it perform better than the plus. The extra core is unused... the vera UI is single threaded. It also does not use the CPU enough for the speed to make a difference. Same for the DRAM. The only benefit is the battery which to me would be more of a problem than benefit since they have limited lifetime and prevent me from easily power cycling the unit.
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You must have missed my posts there... It has an extra CPU core indeed but the DRAM is unused by the software and the flash drive was catastrophically partitioned... netting less useable space than the Plus. After they got bought and my posts about the disastrous engineering they noodled around the partition with symlink (which I initiated with a script I provided on the forum too). I later moved on to boot the vera off of a USB SSD. I know about the zwave chip only because I dug into it. It makes no difference in functionality as the bridge mode the plus and edge had were not used by the vera. It makes the zwave firmware different though.
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Oh gosh... I need to remember this. I think at one point I found the firmware for the chip and using a serial updater, managed to manually upgrade the chip firmware through SSH. That was a long time ago. I think I published how to do this in the old forum but not sure if it's been deleted. At the moment, I no longer have any veras... Also the Vera secure runs on a different/cheaper chip than the vera plus I had.. Why don't you just let the vera run on the dongle?
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Using the vera backup process you would have to go up or remain on the same version. If you backed up your vera which is on 6.01 into a stick in 6.02, you should be able to restore onto another vera with an SDK 6.02 and above. Have you tried that? Upgrading the vera?
To answer your question if you have both your controller with the same node ID, it will cause a mess to your network. In that case I would add the second controller so it takes a different node ID. (I ran vera and zway together this way for several months).
Here is the type of mess it will cause:
Controller1: turn the light one
Light: Ok the light is on
Controller2: Got it... euh What? who told you to?
Controller1: Are you on yet? Timeout, let me ask again. Retry!This will cause the network to be very busy as nodes do not who to report back to or think they already reported and got an ack...
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5.33 =5.32 and 5.36=5.37 if I remember correctly. They were just version numbered for Razberry vs UZB.
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You should be able to downgrade back... But yeah that's what I feared... Upgrading too far would make it impossible for the vera to restore...
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You caught me there. I was probably smarter then than I am now.
My entire system has been working so well that I stopped tinkering or upgrading it save for only occasional additions or optimization of a scene here or there on openLuup. I lost a lot by not practicing.
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yep.. that's what I would do.
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This is weird... It should be above 6. Not sure what this 4.38 corresponds to. It looks like you need to keep going... Or try it to see if it migrates. You never know.
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Before you keep on upgrading, I would recommend to try the vera migration. 29304 is the bootloader I am currently on. So I am not sure what the new bootloader does. It doesn't look like I went down this upgrade path...
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Always upgrade bootloader before the firmware. I at times ended in a dead end and ended up having to use the linux tool to upgrades. The Z-way-server firmware upgrader doesn't always offer the "beta" versions which can be a necessary step to another official version. You can see more by inserting an "all" token but I prefer the lower level linux tool...
Note that you may need to go up all the way to do the backup/copy. You just need to get close enough in the SDK version.
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Looks like you should be going to 5.26 and then 5.27. These are already 6.xx stack versions though.
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Yeah the only way I know of is for me to figure out the spaghetti for you…
Nuke Vera Script
Z-Wave RF optimization
Vera firmware 7.32 beta
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