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Stop the MSR by an external switch on Hubitat.
wmarcolinW
Use case: When performing home maintenance, such as air conditioning, I want all rules involving air conditioning to be disabled. To do this, to day, I have a virtual switch that I placed within all rules involving air conditioning, meaning that if I turn it off, none of them work. Then another situation: the water pump system and garden irrigation, another switch. In short, I had to create several virtual switches in Hubitat to disable rules in MSR. Unfortunately, however, I was unable to cover all scenarios, so I wondered if it would be possible for MSR to support a virtual MSR switch, which, when configured in the reactor settings, would function as a general on/off switch for MSR. If it is configured and turned off, the entire rules and actions in MSR stops working, except for the status change reading process, specifically for this switch, which, when turned on, would restart the MSR. Would it be possible to do something like this? Any recommendations from the experts?
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[Reactor] Help with screne controller cycling logic
therealdbT
I’ve added a couple of Shelly Wave i4 as scene controllers and I’m planning to add more, since I can just use standard buttons instead of battery-powered scene controllers, which also looks better aesthetically. That said, I’m struggling to figure out how to write a simple rule that cycles between states every time I press a button. Example: Light 1 ON → OFF, then Light 2 ON → OFF. The part I can’t get right is handling the case where Light 1 or Light 2 might already be ON independently of the rule. Maybe it’s just too much sun and relaxation clouding my brain, but any hint would be appreciated.
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[Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
therealdbT
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Expose MSR entities
CatmanV2C
Probably a really dumb question. Currently I am using the owntracks_sensor for tracking phones being in region in MSR and it works great. Digging around with Home Assistant and toying with some dashboards, is there any way of exposing that sensor to HA trivially? I could set MSR to trip a virtual switch in OpenLuup which can then be exposed to HA (with all my other Vera devices) but that feels a bit in-elegant if I can do it directly. Any thoughts? Apologies if the ask is not clear/ TIA C
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Comment in Globa Expressions
Tom_DT
I have several Global Expressions that are set by a rule so the definition area is blank. I'd like to add a comment in this area that explains what is setting the value. Commenting in this area breaks the remote setting. Any way to document what is setting the GE?
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Little Bobby tables...
CatmanV2C
...is back.... https://arstechnica.com/google/2025/08/researchers-use-calendar-events-to-hack-gemini-control-smart-home-gadgets/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dhfacebook&utm_content=null&fbclid=IwY2xjawMBq-pleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHlSqIalzbz1IxcJFzlw8GBE6nC3FwvxcHgR370nJhogU6JjqbmRxG-lysqgh_aem_lx9XboYFKw9tpHnedGQKUA C
General Discussion
Home Assistant Voice TTS is Easy
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Play Audio through Home Assistant Voice Unit
toggledbitsT
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Home Assistant
Home Assistant Voice
CatmanV2C
Has anyone had a play with the local voice control for HA? I've got one on order because... https://www.home-assistant.io/voice-pe/ C
Home Assistant
Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API.
Multi-System Reactor
Gradually turn on lights.
Tom_DT
I have several lights that I would like to turn on very gradually over 15 or 20 seconds. from 0 to .25 in .01 increments. I have tried a few things that came nowhere near working, so here I am.
Multi-System Reactor
Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Can't customize home page
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I foolishly let my system wipe all cookies this morning and with it my settings for my MSR home page. Once logged back in I can no longer remove errant panes nor is the + available to add new ones. Brave Browser v1.80.122 (Jul 16, 2025) What have I done?! Will check other browsers on my M1. UPDATE: Safari exhibits same behaviour. I've tried both sans last-four public key entry and with - no change.
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Error After Upgrade
T
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Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
R
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Need help figuring out how to delay a reset on reaction
T
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Way to search for rules (rule state) in other rules
T
@toggledbits, not sure if this is a feature request or I'm using the search tool wrong. You have a "Search for rule" in the Rules Set tab in MSR. It works nicely to find a rule and bring up said rule, but can it/could it be used for as a "where used?" global search? For instance, I have a fairly large set of rules, divided up into 10 different rulesets. There's easily a hundred individual rules, and many of the rules have Rule State triggers, which of course refer to other rules. Amongst my troubleshooting today, I came across what may have been a duplicate or troubleshooting attempt, but I can't tell if it's actually used as a Rule State in another rule without opening each rule that I suspect it may be a part of. Thanks.
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Links to MSR from HA
Tom_DT
I am using Home Assistant a lot recently. On a dashboard showing the devices, I would like to show a link to the MSR rule that controls the devices. Is there a way to link directly into MSR?
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Set Reaction > Script Action
wmarcolinW
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Wiring Samotech SM308-S into light fitting
F
Hi Smart Home Community. I have used a Sonos inline WiFi switch to make one of my light fittings smart, but it requires a hard reset for WiFi changes, plus it isn't zigbee compatible, which means I can't use the Hue app to control it with the rest of the lights. To that end I bought a Samotech SM308-S as it is recommended as the better than the Sonos equivalent. I am however not exactly sure how to wire it in. The manual is available here Can anyone help me by clarifying which ports I need to use, and whether I should be using the live or switched live line for live etc. I will be keeping using standard switches for a while, although hope to upgrade to tap dials once I have all the fittings upgraded. Thanks
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  • Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
    R RHCPNG

    Seems to be working perfectly. Thanks! Should have thought of that myself.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
    R RHCPNG

    @toggledbits Thanks, this is great. I will try it out!

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  • Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
    R RHCPNG

    Additional question:

    • The entity value is not changing, because the value doesn't change, right? Or is the event not even triggered? (I don't see the entity flashing in the entities section, when I try to trigger the event)
    • Can I add attribute metadata to the rule trigger to see if there was an update?
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  • Reset attribute value of entity in event handler
    R RHCPNG

    Hi all,

    I have successfully created an event handler for the interactive notifications of HA, see: https://smarthome.community/post/15414

    However, I'm not able to reset the value that the event has set.

    This is my event handler:

    event_targets:
            interactive_notification_responses:
              name: "Handle notification responses"
              capabilities:
              - string_sensor
              events:
              - event:
                  event_type: mobile_app_notification_action
                  data:
                    action: "LAUNDRY_INSIDE"
                response:
                  "string_sensor.value":
                    expr: "event.data.action"
    

    I have only 1 button in the notification, so the value is the same every time.

    Because of this my rule does not trigger a second time, because the value is the same.

    My solution was to use an entity action and do a set_attribute to reset the value of the entity. But this does not seem to work.

    This is my set reaction part:
    6d14118f-1b05-47ab-838d-7488c2ca8e76-Screenshot 2025-06-15 17.02.57.png

    Shouldn't this be working? And maybe there is a smarter way?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
    R RHCPNG

    Thanks for your answer, that's basically the same way I use the rule sets.

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  • Organizing/ structuring rule sets and rules
    R RHCPNG

    Hi guys,

    Just wondering how you guys organize your rule sets and rules. I wish I had an extra layer to have some more granularity, but my feature request was not popular.

    Maybe there are better ways to organize my rule sets.

    I use the rule sets now primarily for rooms. So a rule set per room. But maybe grouping by functionality works better. Any examples/ suggestions would be appreciated.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Feature Request: Sublevel in Rulesets
    R RHCPNG

    Hi @toggledbits

    Would you please consider adding an extra sublevel in the rulesets?

    I have grouped my rules in rooms/ areas. This works great for me, but I would also like to group rules for the same functionality (in a room). This would make the rules easier to find and name.

    Please let me know if this is an option. Thanks!

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Switching between z-wave software controllers
    R RHCPNG

    Hi all,

    Is it easy to switch between z-wave software controllers? I have a UZB and I want to update the firmware through Z-Way, but in the end I would like to use Z-Wave JS UI.

    Can I just turn the controller off and switch to another one?

    Software

  • Docker container for Z-Way
    R RHCPNG

    @PerH said in Docker container for Z-Way:

    Its been a while since i've used this now, I've moved to Z-WaveJS..
    Socat - so you have a remote connection to your z-stick? Should work fine with this contatiner, just set it up in the docker-compose file.
    That said, I would ask on the z-way forum, you may find a more current z-way version in a newer container..

    All settings should be persistent if volumes are set up correctly.

    I don't have a remote connection yet, I'm preparing for the migration from Vera to Z-way. I wanted to nuke the Vera and use it as a central hub for my Z-way stick.

    From what I've read, Socat will not work in combination with docker. The Ser2net/ Socat solution is giving me a headache with the preparation alone. It is difficult with docker, so it seems, unless you create a docker specifically with Socat in it. But creating docker images is not a skill I possess (yet).

    Unlike others in this thread, I'm a fan of docker containers. (Easier to maintain, troubleshoot and keep up-to-date). But Socat is a show stopper for now.

    I think I'll ditch the Vera Edge and Z-way docker. I'm looking at using a Raspberry Pi with USB/IP (can't easily install this on the Vera) now instead of Ser2net/Socat and running the Z-way addon for HA.

    Z-Wave.me

  • Docker container for Z-Way
    R RHCPNG

    @PerH Does your docker image support Socat? And, if so, is the configuration persistent after a container update?

    Z-Wave.me

  • Expressions page showing old data
    R RHCPNG

    The only lead I have is the disk space, I don't know what else it could be, although I cleared some space as soon as I got the notification.

    I don't know what to do to further analyze this. I will monitor this and see if it happens again.

    It would be helpful if Reactor could save the expressions to the json more often.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Expressions page showing old data
    R RHCPNG

    @toggledbits

    The exit procedure seems fine.

    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.159Z <Rule:INFO> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) starting evaluation; because expression-state-changed GlobalExpression#gTempOutside
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.159Z <Rule:INFO> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) starting evaluation; because expression-state-changed GlobalExpression#gTempOutside
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.160Z <Rule:INFO> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) trigger evaluation result is true (previously true)
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.160Z <Rule:INFO> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) evaluated; trigger state unchanged (true); rule state remains SET
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.161Z <Rule:INFO> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) trigger evaluation result is false (previously false)
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.162Z <Rule:INFO> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) evaluated; trigger state unchanged (false); rule state remains RESET
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.162Z <Rule:INFO> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) evaluation complete
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:47:59.162Z <Rule:INFO> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) evaluation complete
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.032Z <app:NOTICE> Shutdown signal (SIGTERM) received. Stopping Reaction Engine...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.034Z <app:NOTICE> Closing APIs...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.035Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: closing...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.036Z <httpapi:NOTICE> HTTP API closing...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.036Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping Engine...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.039Z <Rule:NOTICE> Motor op lader (rule-liot7yyg in Garage) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.039Z <Rule:NOTICE> Zonnescherm auto IN (rule-lipp4379 in Tuin) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.039Z <Rule:NOTICE> Zonnescherm auto UIT (rule-lhdixs68 in Tuin) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.039Z <Rule:NOTICE> Disk space low (rule-lgyxocj5 in System) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.039Z <Rule:NOTICE> Niels at home (rule-lg7vjm7n in Proximity) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.042Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at home (rule-lg7v960f in Proximity) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.043Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa driving (rule-lg7v6f3w in Proximity) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.043Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at work (rule-lg7v3cm6 in Proximity) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.043Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at S&K (rule-lg7uxvzo in Proximity) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.088Z <Rule:NOTICE> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.088Z <Rule:NOTICE> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.088Z <wsapi:NOTICE> wsapi: server closed
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.089Z <httpapi:INFO> HTTP server closed.
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.090Z <Rule:NOTICE> Motor op lader (rule-liot7yyg in Garage) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.091Z <Rule:NOTICE> Zonnescherm auto IN (rule-lipp4379 in Tuin) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.094Z <Rule:NOTICE> Zonnescherm auto UIT (rule-lhdixs68 in Tuin) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.095Z <Rule:NOTICE> Disk space low (rule-lgyxocj5 in System) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.096Z <Rule:NOTICE> Niels at home (rule-lg7vjm7n in Proximity) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.097Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at home (rule-lg7v960f in Proximity) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.098Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa driving (rule-lg7v6f3w in Proximity) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.099Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at work (rule-lg7v3cm6 in Proximity) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.100Z <Rule:NOTICE> Tessa at S&K (rule-lg7uxvzo in Proximity) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.101Z <Rule:NOTICE> Windows open (rule-grp1myo029o in Weer) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.102Z <Rule:NOTICE> Windows closed (rule-grp1mznck5b in Weer) stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.111Z <Engine:NOTICE> [Engine]Engine#1 has shut down.
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.112Z <app:NOTICE> Closing Structure...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.112Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure#1 Stopping controllers...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.112Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 stopping VeraController#openluup
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.113Z <Controller:NOTICE> VeraController#openluup stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.117Z <Controller:ERR> Controller VeraController#openluup is off-line!
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.952Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 stopping HassController#hass
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.952Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.965Z <wsapi:WARN> client close from unknown connection? "192.168.1.174#25"
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.966Z <wsapi:WARN> client close from unknown connection? "192.168.1.174#24"
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.983Z <HassController:NOTICE> HassController#hass websocket closing, 1000
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.985Z <Controller:NOTICE> HassController#hass stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:07.988Z <Controller:ERR> Controller HassController#hass is off-line!
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.266Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 stopping DynamicGroupController#groups
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.266Z <DynamicGroupController:null> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.267Z <Controller:NOTICE> DynamicGroupController#groups stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.268Z <Controller:ERR> Controller DynamicGroupController#groups is off-line!
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.279Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 stopping SystemController#reactor_system
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.279Z <Controller:NOTICE> SystemController#reactor_system stopping
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.281Z <Controller:ERR> Controller SystemController#reactor_system is off-line!
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.288Z <Structure:INFO> Structure#1 Final data sync...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.288Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#rulesets
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.289Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#rules
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.289Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#reactions
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.289Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#states
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.316Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#default
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.316Z <default:INFO> Closing container Container#expressions
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.318Z <Structure:NOTICE> Structure Structure#1 stopped
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.319Z <app:NOTICE> Stopping timers...
    [latest-23114]2023-06-21T17:48:09.319Z <app:NOTICE> Shutdown complete, process ID 1
    

    I did get a disk space notification, so my first thought was that that was the problem. But I believe there always was enough space, more than 1 gb at least.

    Does Reactor do something more then only give a signal that disk space is low? Maybe save the cache or something in that line.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Expressions page showing old data
    R RHCPNG

    Is it possible to save it more often? I have to figure out what's causing the loss of the expressions, but for now my backup is "worthless". Now, the only way to get the expressions back would be a restore of a full backup of the docker files, but then I will potentially lose other changes.

    Any idea why I only lose the expressions and not other changes that are done later?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Expressions page showing old data
    R RHCPNG

    Sorry for posting in the other thread, but the problem didn't seem to only be applicable to the add-on.

    You don't understand the problem fully. The browser was not the problem. The changes were gone in the expressions.json.

    After doing the changes again in the browser, the changes were still not visible in the json. Only after a restart, they were visible in the json.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Expressions page showing old data
    R RHCPNG

    Hi @toggledbits,

    I seem to be having the same issue. Is it possible that the expressions are only saved to the json when a restart of Reactor is done?

    Today I looked in Reactor and saw an old version of all my expressions. My latest changes were gone (done a few days ago). Reactor didn't have a restart in the meantime.

    When I recreated all new expressions and looked in expression.json, the new expressions weren't there (yet). After I did a restart of Reactor, the changes were visible.

    Which moments are the expressions saved to the file?

    I'm not running the add-on, but the docker. I do not have the latest update yet (latest-23114-e4060aae)

    This doesn't explain why my changes were gone, but I'm still tinkering about that. Maybe my backup messes something up.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Can't post screen shots here now?
    R RHCPNG

    Same here.

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  • Testing reaction set global expression
    R RHCPNG

    Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for clearing this up! Maybe make a note in the documentation? Most kind of expect all the actions to run when you click the "Run action now" button on the Reaction, I think. And it's even more confusing if it's also dependent on the rule being active or not.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Testing reaction set global expression
    R RHCPNG

    @toggledbits But why do other actions DO run, when I hit "Run action now", even though my rule is deactivated.

    I have an "entity action" next to the "set variable" in the same reaction and this action does fire.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Testing reaction set global expression
    R RHCPNG

    Sorry, can't upload a screenshot. The website gives me a connection error when I try to add it.

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  • Testing reaction set global expression
    R RHCPNG

    Hi @toggledbits

    Just a quick question. I noticed that I can't test a "set variable" action when the rule is not active. I wanted to set a global expression in a reaction and wanted to test it by pushing the "Run action now" button in the border of the reaction, but it didn't do anything. Only when I activated the rule, the button worked.

    Is this a bug or is this by design?

    I'm running the latest docker build:
    latest-23114-e4060aae

    Multi-System Reactor
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