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[DesT]

I'm out of popcorn.. Switching to chocolate

[Pabla]

The movies over for me.. got banned. Well I at least asked for it

[rafale77]

@pabla

The acting is over... now you can just be a spectator. I thought the thread was closed. Apparently not...
Have to appreciate all the posters for the courage to speak up and try to bring back reason in there. Sure managed to get the guy to come completely unglued.

[sender]

@toggledbits you are awesome! Never used reactor but I have seen your involvement and communication and I just wanted to have it said to you.

[Matteburk]

And the winner in the right corner of last nights MMA Forum Fight is .......Riiiiiiiiiiiiigpapaaaaa.......

So Sad that the other guy cant accept his limits. You cant act as a CEO on a companyforum like you were just an annoying user. If he had stayed off the forum and let Nice guys like Sorin and the others do the talkng i guess the hole forumclimate would be better and ezlo more successful.
Good that you stand up and Don’t let bad People push you down @toggledbits

[toggledbits]

Jeeez, he's still ranting. Have any of you ever heard of "confession by projection"?

Edit: It's time to bring the temperature down over there. We all know who we're dealing with. We've made our point. Thank you all who have chimed in on my behalf as well, and offered words of support here. I'm not leaving until he kicks me off. But it's time to let this one die out, cool the temp and let the forum get back to the business of the community. His anger on display won't change anything anyway; the market will sort him out, not me or anyone else here. For myself, I'm getting on with the business of building tools, and if a single-digit percentage of people use my work, I call that a pretty good day.

[akbooer]

Clearly deranged. All I ever wanted to do was support openLuup users, and point out that, under the new regime, that was best done here rather than there!

[DesT]

Some people are having way too much free time

[rafale77]

@akbooer said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

Clearly deranged. All I ever wanted to do was support openLuup users, and point out that, under the new regime, that was best done here rather than there!

Didn't need to explain AK. The guy shows us something green and tells us that it is orange. It's be going on since I was there. Everybody else can see that it is green...

@dest said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

Some people are having way too much free time

And not enough neurons...

Talk about forum rules.. so many he made up to justify banning people giving feedback and expressing their problems and obviously not applying them to himself. Community users are not possessions or employees... they are customers. He is dictating that everyone be happy with the trash and lies he is feeding people without asking why customers are unhappy. Honest customer feedback is essential to success. In my line of work, we don't let ourselves make a single customer unhappy... not one.

Let him be.

[DesT]

Seeing all these stuff on the other forum, gave me more pressure to really remove my Vera dependency in my current setup!

[therealdb]

@dest said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

Seeing all these stuff on the other forum, gave me more pressure to really remove my Vera dependency in my current setup!

Use Vera-Decouple from @toggledbits
I still have my Vera (now Plus - I got one new for 80 bucks on eBay as backup and swapped my Edge to be the backup) perfectly decoupled from the cloud, happily doing its ZWave stuff and with 5-6 days of luup uptime for the things I'm still doing locally (like scenes or code to turn on lights in group, or things that are best locally). If they'll turn off their servers, I'll be impacted exactly zero from this.

[akbooer]

@dest said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

Seeing all these stuff on the other forum, gave me more pressure to really remove my Vera dependency in my current setup!

Yes, absolutely. Finally time to clone that ZWave dongle and plug it in to ZWay, or elsewhere.

[DesT]

@therealdb i'm using one Vera for my 3 zigbee thermostat (so I can probably replaced them by zwave) and the other one it's only for the DSC plugin, that I need to debug on openLuup directly to bring it back on openLuup (was there a while ago and stop working, already talk about that with AK)

All my zwave devices are since a while in ZWAY!

All my scenes/code/etc... are in openLuup since a while too!

[therealdb]

@dest this applies to your case as well. Give it a try https://github.com/toggledbits/Vera-Decouple

[rafale77]

And I do want to say for the record, the post which got me banned over there was about 2 things:

1. A response to a link to the review article for the ezlo USB powered dongle which obviously was written by a home automation newb journalist who knew nothing about it, making claims which were obviously untrue as I had one on hand myself. I called that false advertising.
2. The fact that the ezlo controllers, the ezlo plus was an obvious cost reduced version of the vera plus with everything that matters downgraded and everything which is unimportant brought up to date for cost reduction. It is basically a toy grade device barely good enough as a toy for my then 8 year old lego projects. I was pretty sad seeing all the people spending time and money on 3D printing for a shell which is likely worth more than the content. I am a hardware enthusiast working in the semiconductor industry and am pretty well versed in the grade of these chips, who makes them and how. That was my honest feedback. So I called out the false advertising and the forum spamming.

There is nothing wrong with the hardware of the vera. It is actually a very cleverly designed piece of hardware based on a wireless router which was not utilized appropriately by its mcv firmware developers. Unlike the ezlo, it uses SLC NAND which is bears >100x write cycle lifetime than the garbage ezlo put out (the partitioning of the vera storage was the main problem). It uses an appliance grade CPU which is much more reliable than the toy grade junk in the ezlo plus you can buy as a full system for $7 on aliexpress. I could tell from the build of material that it was reallly a cost reduced and downgraded from the vera plus from the build of material and would have never even tried to run my home on it even someone paid me to do it. The only reason why I am no longer using the vera plus as a radio for openLuup/home assistant or z-way is that I got tired of how prone to bricking these embedded devices are. They take a lot more work to recover when there is a storage problem (data corruption etc) so I went low cost x86/x86 which often can be more energy efficient but are always more cost effective and more reliable.

[toggledbits]

@rafale77 said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

people spending time and money on 3D printing for a shell which is likely worth more than the conten

ROFLMAOO.... and I'm dead!!!

[Matteburk]

Maybe I should sell my 3d printed ezlo Plus shell on Ebay along with the ezlo plus hardware .... Shell 20 Dollar, Hardware Free .... hahaha

[rafale77]

To give you a more graphic analogy of how I see it from a hardware engineer's point of view:
The vera is equivalent to a solid 80's Mercedes with a V8 diesel engine in which mcv has tried to feed some gasoline to make it faster and forgot to install more than 1 seat. It still runs but sputters a little. With a little maintenance and a few fixes, it will run for a long time albeit with only one passenger.
The ezlo plus on the other hand is a brand new 90's Lada on which they put the wings of cessna and they, ezlo, the snake oil salesmen, tell you it will fly you across the ocean powered by the Lada engine. Sorry I didn't believe it for one femto second, would you? Of course the paint job is worth a lot more than the vehicle... and it has 4 seats! yoohoo! You can seat more people but you can't go anywhere with it. And thanks but no thanks, I don't want to test drive it even for free. And no, I won't consider replacing my private jet with it... yeah yeah I know... the door on it can open really fast! awesome! got it! Still it's a "no".

[cw-kid]

@pabla said in Vera account suspended for a 1000 years:

So this is where all the banned Vera members rejoice

Surprised they haven't banned me yet.

I always state my mind, good or bad.

[Pabla]

@cw-kid don’t jinx it, they’ll probably find a forum rule that you’ve somehow broken to ban you too if they want