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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
cw-kidC
Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
Multi-System Reactor
This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
cw-kidC
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
Multi-System Reactor
VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
CrilleC
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
Multi-System Reactor
Copying a global reaction
tunnusT
With build 25328, if you copy a global reaction, a new reaction does not appear in the UI unless you do a refresh. I recall this used to work without needing this page refresh? Anyway, only a minor nuisance.
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[Reactor] Bug when sending MQTT boolean payloads
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Difficulty defining repeating annual period
R
I have tried numerous ways to define a recurring annual period, for example from December 15 to January 15. No matter which method I try - after and before, between, after and/not after, Reactor reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date. Some constructs also seem to cause Reactor to hang, timeout and restart. For example "before January 15 is evaluated as true, but reports "waiting for invalid date, invalid date". Does anyone have a tried and true method to define a recurring annual period? I think the "between" that I used successfully in the past may have broken with one of the updates.
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Need help with sequence
T
Good evening all, For about the past week or so, I've been having problems with a specific rule in my home automation that controls when my home goes from an Away mode to Home mode. One of the conditions it checked for was my alarm panel, when it changed from Armed Away to Disarmed. There seems to have been a firmware update on the panel that added an intermittent step of "pending", and I can't say for certain it happens 100% of the time. Is there a way to write a condition that so it changes from one condition, to the next, and then another condition? As in, Home alarm changes from armed_away to pending to disarmed. Thanks.
Multi-System Reactor
Possible feature request?
CatmanV2C
No idea how easy this would be. During my migration away from Z-wave I've been replacing the Z-wave devices with Sonoff which has broken some of my automations. Any chance of a 'Test Reaction' function to call out which ones are broken because an entity no longer exists? Without actually running the reaction? Or does this exist already and I'm just not aware of how to do it? Obviously I can see entities that are no longer available, but not quite what I'm looking for. I guess it's something of an edge case so no huge issue. TIA! C
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Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
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Time series documentation
tunnusT
Is the current manual (incl. examples) up to date with how retention value is handled in time series configuration? Referring to this post
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MQTT templates for ZIgbee scene controller, or a better way?
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    LibraSun
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    #6

    I volunteer to:

    1. Hammer on all things msr/vera as released.
    2. Proofread any and all documentation.
    3. Continue filing bug reports with full data.
    4. Periodically send Patrick some beer money! ◄– as should everyone who respects his time and energy 🐶
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      CatmanV2
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      In addition to 4 can I volunteer to stand around, sucking my teeth? 😉

      C

      The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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      • LibraSunL LibraSun

        I volunteer to:

        1. Hammer on all things msr/vera as released.
        2. Proofread any and all documentation.
        3. Continue filing bug reports with full data.
        4. Periodically send Patrick some beer money! ◄– as should everyone who respects his time and energy 🐶
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        Matohl
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        @librasun said in System integration roadmap:

        Periodically send Patrick some beer money! ◄– as should everyone who respects his time and energy

        Done

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          From what I recall he likes Scotch better...

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          • toggledbitsT toggledbits

            These are all great ideas. What I'm working on at the moment changes the entity model a bit conceptually, not in implementation, and I want to get that in your collective hands and stabilized first, in case it breeds any necessary changes in the API. But, I'm happy to say, the implementation was pretty quick on my end -- while it has taken me most of the last two days, yesterday was really a short day (family events, hence no build last night) and I knocked out the changes for Hubitat and Hass, and today (about three hours so far) I've completed the Vera changes.

            The gist is this: the updated controllers will be exposing every attribute and every action they can in a standard, stable interface at the rule and reaction level. The "lingua Franca" capabilities (power_switch, etc.) will still and always be present for use, and will represent their own stable interface across platforms, but it will no longer be strictly necessary for new and unrecognized devices to be mapped before use.

            This is going to "fluff up" the list of attributes and actions in the UI, particularly on Vera. It's actually pretty tidy and nice on Hass and Hubitat. All of this will be in today's build, hopefully, if I can get through my testing. If there's no build today, this is why, as it's pretty much the only thing I've worked on since yesterday (and I have more family events this afternoon).

            So, who's volunteering to build what? JavaScript required...

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            @toggledbits I’m more than happy to do mqtt and ha-bridge, to start. I’ve some open source time to invest (because I love to give back) and I’ll be more than happy to help.

            --
            On a mission to automate everything.

            My MS Reactor contrib
            My Luup Plug-ins

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              I'd like to try a Domoticz integration, but spring usually brings more outdoor projects.. some day!

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                I'd love to see a docker addon for HA...

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                  cw-kid
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                  #13

                  I'd like for the Home Remote dashboard app to support the MSR API. So I could add an MSR device object in to the Home Remote Designer and then see all my Global Reactions (Scenes) that are in MSR etc. I could then easily create dashboard "Scene" tiles to run these MSR Global Reactions from my dashboard interface.

                  But obviously that would be down to the Home Remote developer to add native support for it.

                  I was able to add a "HTTP Switch" in to the Home Remote Designer and send one HTTP command to MSR when the switch was turned ON in the dashboard app and send another HTTP command when the switch was turned OFF etc.

                  Using commands like:

                  http://MSR-IP:8111/api/v1/reaction/re-klkn8rxw/run
                  

                  It worked but I can see it being very time consuming creating these types of HTTP switches in the Home Remote dashboard, as its basically a plugin script in Home Remote and not the easiest thing to scale up and just create a load of new switches that can run various MSR Global Reactions.

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                  • toggledbitsT toggledbits

                    These are all great ideas. What I'm working on at the moment changes the entity model a bit conceptually, not in implementation, and I want to get that in your collective hands and stabilized first, in case it breeds any necessary changes in the API. But, I'm happy to say, the implementation was pretty quick on my end -- while it has taken me most of the last two days, yesterday was really a short day (family events, hence no build last night) and I knocked out the changes for Hubitat and Hass, and today (about three hours so far) I've completed the Vera changes.

                    The gist is this: the updated controllers will be exposing every attribute and every action they can in a standard, stable interface at the rule and reaction level. The "lingua Franca" capabilities (power_switch, etc.) will still and always be present for use, and will represent their own stable interface across platforms, but it will no longer be strictly necessary for new and unrecognized devices to be mapped before use.

                    This is going to "fluff up" the list of attributes and actions in the UI, particularly on Vera. It's actually pretty tidy and nice on Hass and Hubitat. All of this will be in today's build, hopefully, if I can get through my testing. If there's no build today, this is why, as it's pretty much the only thing I've worked on since yesterday (and I have more family events this afternoon).

                    So, who's volunteering to build what? JavaScript required...

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                    cw-kid
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                    @toggledbits said in System integration roadmap:

                    The gist is this: the updated controllers will be exposing every attribute and every action they can in a standard, stable interface at the rule and reaction level. The "lingua Franca" capabilities (power_switch, etc.) will still and always be present for use, and will represent their own stable interface across platforms, but it will no longer be strictly necessary for new and unrecognized devices to be mapped before use.
                    This is going to "fluff up" the list of attributes and actions in the UI, particularly on Vera

                    Please can you explain this in more simple terms for us dummies.

                    Does this mean in MSR everything that Vera can see about a device, will now be seen and accessible in the MSR rules also?

                    All that devices various ServiceID's and variables ?

                    Thanks

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                    • cw-kidC cw-kid

                      @toggledbits said in System integration roadmap:

                      The gist is this: the updated controllers will be exposing every attribute and every action they can in a standard, stable interface at the rule and reaction level. The "lingua Franca" capabilities (power_switch, etc.) will still and always be present for use, and will represent their own stable interface across platforms, but it will no longer be strictly necessary for new and unrecognized devices to be mapped before use.
                      This is going to "fluff up" the list of attributes and actions in the UI, particularly on Vera

                      Please can you explain this in more simple terms for us dummies.

                      Does this mean in MSR everything that Vera can see about a device, will now be seen and accessible in the MSR rules also?

                      All that devices various ServiceID's and variables ?

                      Thanks

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                      @cw-kid said in System integration roadmap:

                      Does this mean in MSR everything that Vera can see about a device, will now be seen and accessible in the MSR rules also?

                      Yes. In that respect, same as Reactor for Vera. Not user-friendly, but complete. The system-defined capabilities will still be there, like power_switch and dimming. You will able to use either.

                      Author of Multi-system Reactor and Reactor, DelayLight, Switchboard, and about a dozen other plugins that run on Vera and openLuup.

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                        cw-kid
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                        OK well that's a good thing then. Will make it like PLEG also in that respect, where you can see and choose all ServiceID's and variables.

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                          LibraSun
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                          I'd love to see native Google Calendar integration (in much the same way that GCal 3 plug-in currently offers I/O to a designated Google Calendar).

                          Fun way to track past events and preset future triggers dynamically.

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                            Reolink Cameras with NVR ... would be lovely to trigger stuff with....

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                              LibraSun
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                              Heck, if we're heading in that direction, then I toss RING Cameras and Doorbells into the hat. I realize that's a tall order from every perspective.

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                                cw-kid
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                                Do those camera systems not have their own HTTP API ?

                                I have Hikvision cameras and they have a HTTP API for controlling aspects of the cameras. So Vera and MSR or anything else can control them via HTTP requests.

                                Turning on / off motion detection for example or starting a manual recording.

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                                  Do those camera systems not have their own HTTP API ?

                                  I have Hikvision cameras and they have a HTTP API for controlling aspects of the cameras. So Vera and MSR or anything else can control them via HTTP requests.

                                  Turning on / off motion detection for example or starting a manual recording.

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                                  @cw-kid This is what I found
                                  https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/article_attachments/900001038146/CGI_command.pdf

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