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3rdStng

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Raspberry Pi 4 dual RAM variant introduced to mitigate RAM price increases
toggledbitsT
Article here that may be of interest to some: https://www.cnx-software.com/2026/02/05/raspberry-pi-4-dual-ram-variant-introduced-to-mitigate-ram-price-increases-and-supply-challenges/
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Condition for trend
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Set reaction triggering wrong z-wave device
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Can you run MSR on Home Assistant OS ?
cw-kidC
Looking at using Home Assistant for the first time, either on a Home Assistant Green, their own hardware or buying a cheap second hand mini PC. Sounds like Home Assistant OS is linux based using Docker for HA etc. Would I also be able to install things like MSR as well on their OS ? On the same box? Thanks.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi 4 LTS (3GB RAM/16GB eMMC)
toggledbitsT
The last of four boards I'm trying in this batch is the Orange Pi 4 LTS. I purchased a 3GB RAM + 16GB eMMC model from Amazon for $83, making it the most costly of the four boards tried, but still well under my US$100 limit. This board is powered by a Rockchip RK3399-T processor, ARM-compatible with dual Cortex-A72 cores and quad Cortex-A53 cores at 1.6Ghz (1.8Ghz for the 4GB model); compare this to the RPi 3B+ with four Cortex-A53 and the RPi 4B with four Cortex-A72, this board is a hybrid that I would expect to stand in the performance middle between the two RPi models. It's available in 3GB and 4GB DDR4 RAM configurations, with and without 16GB eMMC storage. It has a MicroSDHC slot, gigabit Ethernet, WiFi and BT, two USB 2.0 type A ports, one USB 3.0 type C port, a mini PCIe ribbon-cable connector (requires add-on board for standard connector), two each RPi-compatible camera and LCD ports, HDMI type A, and can be powered (5VDC/3A) via USB-C or DC type C (3.8mm OD/1.1mm ID) jack (center-positive), an odd and perhaps unwelcome departure from the more common type A (5.5mm/2.1mm). A serial port for console/debug can be connected by using a (not included) USB-TTL adapter (3.3V) via pin headers like the Orange Pi Zero 2. The included dual-band antenna connects via U.FL connector to the board, so it's easy substituting for another if you prefer. The manufacturer recommends use of a heat sink (which was included in the box). A metal cooling case is also offered by the manufacturer (a bundle with the metal case and a power supply is sold on Amazon for $90 as of this writing). The Orange Pi 4 LTS is somewhat longer than the RPi 4B, and although the boards are the same width, the mounting hole placement is different both in length and (oddly) width. Between this and the differences in connector locations, neither board is a drop-in replacecment for the other and their respective cases are not interchangeable. The 26-pin header is a subset of the RPi 4B's 40-pin header, so some HATs for the RPi may work (although the mounting hole differences will make securing them "interesting"), and some HATs will surely not. Models with eMMC storage have an OS installed and boot immediately with SSH daemon running and ready for login. Mine was running Debian Bullseye, which would probably be fine for most users. It had clearly been on there a while, because it needed a lot of updates, but it's a current distro, so you're running out of the box with something that will last. A different OS can be installed by downloading an image (once again I chose Ubuntu Jammy) and writing it to a MicroSD card, then booting the system from the SD card. You can either leave the system in that state (running the OS from the SD card), or copy the OS from the SD card to the eMMC. The latter is done by a script; documentation for the process is best described in the downloadable PDF User Manual. This took about 10 minutes and went smoothly, and I was able to boot the system without the SD card after the process completed. I have lingering questions around the value of the eMMC storage. It's definitely faster than using MicroSD or USB-based storage (I got 311MB/s average on a 4GB write, compared to MicroSD performance around 15MB/s), but it would take a long-term test of this product to determine if the on-board eMMC option has the stamina to take the write counts typical of Linux systems, and if its wear-leveling and error correction are sufficient to assure a long, error-free life. Given the high premium apparently being paid for including eMMC on the board, it should be fast and durable, but only time and experience (perhaps painful) would tell the latter. A careful configuration with other Flash-friendly filesystems could be used to reduce wear, but this is an advanced configuration/cookbook topic and beyond the scope of this writing. This question is also not unique to eMMC — MicroSD cards are also known to fail with high write cycles, so the use of a "high endurance" product is recommended for any and all systems using MicroSD as primary storage. The board has Mini PCIe capability, and that may be a storage alternative, but read on... Also bear in mind that the eMMC storage is fixed-size forever; it cannot be expanded, and 16GB can run out pretty quickly these days. Users of MicroSD cards for primary storage can upgrade to bigger cards, but when users of eMMC primary storage outgrow it, the only choice is to add a MicroSD card or other "external" storage to the system, move part of the filesystem to it, and then manage both storage devices and deal with the limitations and risks of both. As I mentioned with the Orange Pi Zero 2, if you are going to use this board as a home automation controller/gateway or similar role, it should (IMO) have a battery-backed real time clock (RTC), and Orange Pi offers an add-on module that connects directly to the 26-pin header on the board. An available expansion board provides a standard Mini PCIe interface and SIM card slot (hmm...), but it connects to the main board via a short ribbon cable, and its mounting holes have no complement on the main board, so it seems like it would be a fragile dangly thing that's a nuisance to deal with. I want to like this board more, and it's very capable, but I'm concerned about value. The limited options for eMMC (16GB or none), the question mark of the eMMC's longevity vs cost, the strange DC power connector choice, the lack of 40-pin GPIO on a full-size (plus) board, the inconsistent hole placement, and the fragile Mini PCIe arrangement, are all "cons" that devalue this board in my view. The price point is clearly driven by the additional capabilities of the board (camera support, ports, six core CPU, extra RAM, on-board eMMC storage), but unfortunately, a great many of these features may not be useful for home automation, and therefore potentially a waste of money. In terms of overall value, I still believe the Libre "Le Potato" seems a better choice to me, and the Orange Pi Zero 2 (very) a close second, but I'll admit I'm focused on a particular application and your needs may be better suited to what this board offers than mine. Passmark Results: OrangePi 4 LTS Cortex-A72 (aarch64) 6 cores @ 1200 MHz | 2.9 GiB RAM Number of Processes: 6 | Test Iterations: 1 | Test Duration: Medium -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU Mark: 583 Integer Math 12037 Million Operations/s Floating Point Math 2542 Million Operations/s Prime Numbers 4.5 Million Primes/s Sorting 3141 Thousand Strings/s Encryption 153 MB/s Compression 4049 KB/s CPU Single Threaded 154 Million Operations/s Physics 80.5 Frames/s Extended Instructions (NEON) 244 Million Matrices/s Memory Mark: 498 Database Operations 551 Thousand Operations/s Memory Read Cached 2524 MB/s Memory Read Uncached 2602 MB/s Memory Write 3182 MB/s Available RAM 1947 Megabytes Memory Latency 119 Nanoseconds Memory Threaded 6243 MB/s --------------- eMMC storage write 311MB/s average for 4GB; MicroSD (Samsung 32GB class 10) storage write 15MB/s.
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RPi Alternative: Orange Pi Zero 2 (1GB)
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RPi Alternative: Libre Computer AML-S905X-CC "Le Potato" (2GB RAM)
toggledbitsT
With Raspberry Pi boards continuing to be relatively scarce, I've been trying a few alternatives to see what may be usable and good. I had previously written about the Jetson Nano 2GB, which is great, but a little pricey, so I'm trying to find sub-US$100 boards that will run Reactor. I've got four that I'm trying now, but one in particular goes right to work in the most predictable way and seems worth a mention immediately: the Libre Computer Board AML-S905X-CC 2GB (known as "Le Potato"). The form factor is very similar to that of the Raspberry Pi 3 B+, and has comparable CPU (ARM Cortex-A53, quad 64-bit cores at 1.5+GHz -- slightly higher clock speed). It's US$35 on Amazon and LoverPi in the (recommended) 2GB configuration, and easy to get. Startup is like RPi: download one of the available OS images (Ubuntu, Raspbian, Debian, ARMbian, etc.) from their site and write the image to a MicroSD card, insert into slot, power up, and off you go. I tried the Ubuntu 22.04 image first and it comes right up. No problem getting nodejs 18.12.1 installed and running (with Reactor). No WiFi on board, but I don't see that as a minus for use as a controller/hub (which should be hard-wired, IMO). The 40-pin GPIO connector is compatible with typical RPi HATs (PoE, breakouts, etc.). There is an available eMMC (solid state storage) module to use instead of MicroSD, which I would recommend for long-term use. It runs US$25 for 32GB (64GB and 128GB available). The module is scarcely larger than the chip it carries, and has the smallest board-to-board connector I've ever seen. Next up: ESPRESSObin 2GB (spoiler: it's... technical...)
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HA and AI
CatmanV2C
Having hours of (actually quite fun) interaction with AI (Chat GPT) making up dashboards and sensors for HA. It's OK (well it's better than I am!) but it makes soooo many mistakes. Gets there in the end though, if you've half a clue (which I do half the time) C
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How to upgrade from an old version of MSR?
cw-kidC
Hello I haven't updated my installation of MSR in a very long time. Its a bare metal Linux install currently on version 24366-3de60836 I see the latest version is now latest-26011-c621bbc7 I assume I cannot just jump from a very old version to the latest version? Or can I? Thanks
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This trigger no longer working - complaining about the operator needing changing
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Self test
CatmanV2C
Having been messing around with some stuff I worked a way to self trigger some tests that I wanted to do on the HA <> MSR integration This got me wondering if there's an entity that changes state / is exposed when a configured controller goes off line? I can't see one but thought it might be hidden or something? Cheers C
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Access control - allowing anonymous user to dashboard
tunnusT
Using build 25328 and having the following users.yaml configuration: users: # This section defines your valid users. admin: ******* groups: # This section defines your user groups. Optionally, it defines application # and API access restrictions (ACLs) for the group. Users may belong to # more than one group. Again, no required or special groups here. admin_group: users: - admin applications: true # special form allows access to ALL applications guests: users: "*" applications: - dashboard api_acls: # This ACL allows users in the "admin" group to access the API - url: "/api" group: admin_group allow: true log: true # This ACL allows anyone/thing to access the /api/v1/alive API endpoint - url: "/api/v1/alive" allow: true session: timeout: 7200 # (seconds) rolling: true # activity extends timeout when true # If log_acls is true, the selected ACL for every API access is logged. log_acls: true # If debug_acls is true, even more information about ACL selection is logged. debug_acls: true My goal is to allow anonymous user to dashboard, but MSR is still asking for a password when trying to access that. Nothing in the logs related to dashboard access. Probably an error in the configuration, but help needed to find that. Tried to put url: "/dashboard" under api_acls, but that was a long shot and didn't work.
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VEC Virtual Switch Auto Off
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I use Virtual Entity Controller virtual switches which I turn on via webhooks from other applications. Once a switch triggers and turns on, I can then activate associated rules. I would like each virtual switch to automatically turn off after a configurable time (e.g., 5 seconds, 10 seconds). Is there a better way to achieve this auto-off behavior instead of creating a separate rule for each switch that uses the 'Condition must be sustained for' option to turn it off? With a large number of these switches (and the associated turn-off rules), I'm checking to see if there is a simpler approach.If not, could this be a feature request to add an auto-off timer directly to the virtual switches. Thanks Reactor (Multi-hub) latest-26011-c621bbc7 VirtualEntityController v25356 Synology Docker
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Upcoming Storage Change -- Got Back-ups?
toggledbitsT
TL;DR: Format of data in storage directory will soon change. Make sure you are backing up the contents of that directory in its entirety, and you preserve your backups for an extended period, particularly the backup you take right before upgrading to the build containing this change (date of that is still to be determined, but soon). The old data format will remain readable (so you'll be able to read your pre-change backups) for the foreseeable future. In support of a number of other changes in the works, I have found it necessary to change the storage format for Reactor objects in storage at the physical level. Until now, plain, standard JSON has been used to store the data (everything under the storage directory). This has served well, but has a few limitations, including no real support for native JavaScript objects like Date, Map, Set, and others. It also is unable to store data that contains "loops" — objects that reference themselves in some way. I'm not sure exactly when, but in the not-too-distant future I will publish a build using the new data format. It will automatically convert existing JSON data to the new format. For the moment, it will save data in both the new format and the old JSON format, preferring the former when loading data from storage. I have been running my own home with this new format for several months, and have no issues with data loss or corruption. A few other things to know: If you are not already backing up your storage directory, you should be. At a minimum, back this directory up every time you make big changes to your Rules, Reactions, etc. Your existing JSON-format backups will continue to be readable for the long-term (years). The code that loads data from these files looks for the new file format first (which will have a .dval suffix), and if not found, will happily read (and convert) a same-basenamed .json file (i.e. it looks for ruleid.dval first, and if it doesn't find it, it tries to load ruleid.json). I'll publish detailed instructions for restoring from old backups when the build is posted (it's easy). The new .dval files are not directly human-readable or editable as easily as the old .json files. A new utility will be provided in the tools directory to convert .dval data to .json format, which you can then read or edit if you find that necessary. However, that may not work for all future data, as my intent is to make more native JavaScript objects directly storable, and many of those objects cannot be stored in JSON. You may need to modify your backup tools/scripts to pick up the new files: if you explicitly name .json files (rather than just specifying the entire storage directory) in your backup configuration, you will need to add .dval files to get a complete, accurate backup. I don't think this will be an issue for any of you; I imagine that you're all just backing up the entire contents of storage regardless of format/name, that is the safest (and IMO most correct) way to go (if that's not what you're doing, consider changing your approach). The current code stores the data in both the .dval form and the .json form to hedge against any real-world problems I don't encounter in my own use. Some future build will drop this redundancy (i.e. save only to .dval form). However, the read code for the .json form will remain in any case. This applies only to persistent storage that Reactor creates and controls under the storage tree. All other JSON data files (e.g. device data for Controllers) are unaffected by this change and will remain in that form. YAML files are also unaffected by this change. This thread is open for any questions or concerns.
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Oddness in Copy/Move of Reactions
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[Solved] function isRuleEnabled() issue
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[Reactor] Problem with Global Reactions and groups
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Possible feature request 2?
CatmanV2C
Just another thought. Adding devices from my Home Assistant / Zigbee2MQTT integration. Works perfectly but they always add as their IEEE address. Some of these devices have up to 10 entities associated, and the moment they are renamed to something sensible, each of those entities 'ceases to exist' in MSR. I like things tidy, and deleting each defunct entity needs 3 clicks. Any chance of a 'bulk delete' option? No biggy as I've pretty much finished my Z-wave migration and I don't expect to be adding more than 2 new Zigbee devices Cheers C
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Genuinely impressed with Zigbee and HA / Reactor
CatmanV2C
Just for the record, in case anyone is following, I'm really rather impressed. I have installed one of these: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0B6P22YJC?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title&th=1 That's connected (physically) to the VM running on my Synology, with a 2m USB extension. The same host also runs Openluup, Mosquito, HA Bridge. Yesterday I installed Zigbee2mqtt. That was a bit of a PITA but mostly because of ports and permissions. Once up and running, and the correct boxes ticked, immediately visible in Home Assistant via the MQTT integration, and thence into Reactor I've only got two devices. I bought the cheapest sensor I could find, which is a door sensor. Dead easy to add to ZIgbee2mqtt and again, immediately visible in HA. https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FPQLWRW1?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title The dongle is on the top floor of the house, and I wanted the sensor on the back door (just about as far apart as it's possible to get short of going into the garage) When I moved the sensor downstairs it dropped out pretty instantly (which wasn't a huge surprise) so quick bit of research found out that smart plugs will act as routers so... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0FDQDPGBB?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Took me about 30 seconds to connect. Updated the name. Instantly visible in Reactor with the new name pushed over from Zigbee2mqtt. And lo, the door sensor now has a signal of 140 and works as far as I can tell perfectly and instantly (unlike my z-wave one). A few more of those will be purchased and used to replace the Tuya wifi cloud devices and the (continually failing) Z-wave plugs (yeah, they were TKB so....) Commended to the house. Thanks for everyone that got me on the right lines. C
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  • Rule Set UI bug - RESOLVED
    3 3rdStng

    Docker image "latest-25264-2fbe9217" running on unRAID.
    Running this in Chrome Version 140.0.7339.[128 or 208] with the same results in Edge.

    The UI, when searching within the Rule Set, does not reset/self clear when you click outside of the rule set area.

    To reproduce the issue:
    Click on Rule Sets and type in something within the Search window that does not exist for a rule name. "french" in my example.
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    Click outside of the gray area, where my mouse is in the screen grabs, which will close the Rule Sets pop over.
    Click on Rule Sets again and none of the rules will appear. The search term isn't sticky either.
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    The rules won't appear again until you type any character, or press the backspace, in the "Search for rule" field.
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  • [Reactor] Variables not updating correctly in latest-25201-2aa18550
    3 3rdStng

    I don't know if my issue is related or not here. It seems like it should, but I also understand that local expression handling has changed within the last couple of builds. I don't know exactly when my issue started, nor what build I was on. My guess would be Sept 7th as my rule was last "SET" on that date.

    I am running latest-25254-f6a45e41 in a docker on unRAID. The following rule has been in place for years and has been working pretty reliably, until recently.

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    The Set Reaction is just to turn on the shower exhaust fan. I collapsed it for screenshot space.
    If I change the Local Expressions to: (and in this order)

    MBath_HumityRise = "CurrentHumidity - MBath_prevHumidity"
    MBath_prevHumidity = "CurrentHumidity"
    CurrentHumidity = (some # value like 48)
    

    And then manually change the CurrentHumidity value to 54 (something >=3), the rule triggers. The MBath_HumidityRise value changes to 6 too. Setting the CurrentHumidity to 50, changes the HumidityRise value to -4.

    When I set these expressions back to pull from the device, I see the prevHumidity value change, but the HumidityRise value always stays 0. I set up global expression under different names and watched the values too. In the same order with the Rise expression above the Prev expression, I never see the Rise value change.

    I will see if I have 25260 available for my docker update and test that, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this rule stopped working.

    EDIT: Updated to 25260 and I'm still not seeing the HumidityRise expression change. I kept my global expressions since they update and refresh on the page, where the local expressons don't appear to do so within the rule. Watching these two expressions, as soon as the prevHumidity sensor updates, the expression turns green. But the Rise expression didn't and still showed 0. In this screen grab, the humidity went from 46 to 45. I would have expected the top expression to show a -1.

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  • Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction [Solved with Work Around]
    3 3rdStng

    Refined my actions to include a timeout, just in case someone comes home, but they leave without entering the door.

    Actions:
    Set variable 'lastLockEvent' to "pending entry"
    Turn on porch light
    Turn on driveway lights
    Repeat While:
    -- Triggers:
    -- [lastLockEvent] contains "manually locked"
    -- [OR]
    -- [lastLockEvent] contains "pending entry" (condition sustained for 20 minutes)
    -- Actions:
    -- Delay 10 seconds
    Delay random between 1 to 5 minutes
    Turn off porch light
    Turn off driveway lights

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  • Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction [Solved with Work Around]
    3 3rdStng

    @toggledbits said in Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction:

    hub variable should appear as an entity with the string_sensor capability, and it should have an extended action (x_hubitat_Variable.setVariable) to let you change the value.

    Worked perfectly!

    Thank you for the feedback and allowing me to type out my thoughts to refine this rule.

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  • Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction [Solved with Work Around]
    3 3rdStng

    @toggledbits said in Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction:

    As you disclose details, it's beginning to look like you've imagined a solution based on some other product, and you're trying to get Reactor to work its way, instead of doing it "the Reactor way."

    That is very possible. I'm still mentally mapping this out too. And I 100% know that an image of my rule set would really help clear things up. I'm not in a position to get a screenshot at the moment. I'll try to put my thoughts in to text. (scary)

    Rule set as of today:
    Triggers:
    After midnight AND
    Before sunrise AND
    Any Presence Sensor in the group changes from Not Present to Present

    Actions:
    Turn on the porch light
    Turn on the driveway lights
    Wait for a random period of time between 10-15 minutes
    Turn off the porch light
    Turn off the driveway lights

    What I am after is within the Actions only. The Triggers are still the same.

    Actions:
    Turn on the porch light
    Turn on the driveway lights
    Wait until the HE Hub variable "lastDoorLockEvent" reports "Manually locked"
    Wait for a random period of time between 10-15 minutes
    Turn off the porch light
    Turn off the driveway lights

    The waiting until the hub variable is what's potentially causing the issue. When I go to bed, and assuming the door was open, I'll close it and lock it. So the hub variable now reports "Manually locked". If someone arrives after midnight and before sunrise, the variable will still report "Manually locked" since the lock status hasn't changed yet. So theoretically MSR won't wait since it already sees the variable as what it is looking for.

    And as I type this out, I suppose I could insert a set variable into the actions. I honestly haven't looked yet, but can MSR set a variable that is local to the hub only? Not within MSR.

    Actions:
    Turn on the porch light
    Turn on the driveway lights
    Set HE Hub variable "lastDoorLockEvent" to "waiting entry"
    Repeat Until the HE Hub variable "lastDoorLockEvent" reports "Manually locked"
    Wait for a random period of time between 10-15 minutes
    Turn off the porch light
    Turn off the driveway lights

    The entire concept stems from Hubitat's Rule Machine's "Wait for event" that you can define in a rule. I have a couple of these at my remote HE, where I can't run MSR easily.

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  • Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction [Solved with Work Around]
    3 3rdStng

    Hmm.... Thanks for this, I think I can make it work, but it may take two Repeat While actions. It doesn't appear that I can wait for a change. It's only waiting for a True or False and not a change from Opened to Closed.

    I believe in my rule I would need a "Repeat While the door is false" (open) to wait for someone to actually open the door. Then a "Repeat While the door is true" (closed) to wait for them to close the door and then continuing on the actions to turn off the lights.

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  • Feature Request - Wait for an event/trigger within Reaction [Solved with Work Around]
    3 3rdStng

    I think this feature request could be accomplished with the use of two or more rules, but it would be great if there was a way to wait for an event or trigger to occur before continuing on in the reactions.

    For example, I have a rule that will turn on some exterior lights if you arrive home after the porch lights have been turned off. Right now this rule randomly will turn off between 5-10 minutes after the person has entered the geofence. On some occasions this 5-10 minutes isn't long enough, say if you are unloading the car or something. I would like to kick off the reaction, but pause it part way through and wait for the door to close and lock, then continue it on. Hubitat Rule Machine has a "Wait for event" option, but I really want to keep all my logic within MSR.

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  • Free to a new home
    3 3rdStng

    I have an older Vera Plus controller that has been collecting dust for a little while. I know the hardware is no longer supported but I would prefer it to go to a good home vs the eWaste center. No charge, just pay for shipping and it's yours. If you are interested, let me know.

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  • [RESOLVED] Troubleshooting assistance/ideas needed
    3 3rdStng

    I love it when solutions come to you in your dreams. It dawned on me that my Hub Security on the hub was reset but I still had it enabled on MSR. As soon as I enabled it on my hub and restarted MSR, and literally had a kid walk through the entire house, every motion sensor was tripping back and forth from inactive to active back to inactive.

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  • [RESOLVED] Troubleshooting assistance/ideas needed
    3 3rdStng

    Running MSR latest-23344-ca53d088 within a Docker.

    My Hubitat (HE) hub suffered almost a 4 day outage from a corrupt backup that failed to restore. During this time I had my MSR docker stopped. Well, I didn't stop it until the the hub had been down for 24 hours. Anyway, I finally got the hub back online this morning and am fixing my MSR rules for everything that was lost. Support needed to purge out the Apps section of the backup.

    So my issue. So far everything I have fixed is working as expected, with the exception of my motion controllers. I can see them go "Active" within my HE, but the Entity within MSR never changes from false to true. I ran through a slew of rooms that have motion sensors and only 1 out of 6 changed to true.

    I removed the sensor I'm testing with from Maker API, restarted MSR, re-added it, restarted MSR, but no difference. I then Deleted it from MSR and restarted MSR. It was re-added, but again no change. How can I go about testing this further to find out why/what is going on?

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  • [RESOLVED] PSA for Hubitat 2.3.7.x upgrade
    3 3rdStng

    Hmm.. OK. I was re-reading the HubitatController section of the docs and realized that I removed my Hub Information device a couple of months back. Perhaps that was part of the issue? I put it back and then upgraded to 2.3.7.140. So far so good. Hopefully it was the missing Hub Information device, or perhaps my HE was just having an off day? I'll monitor things and report back if there is any issues. Thanks all.

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  • [RESOLVED] PSA for Hubitat 2.3.7.x upgrade
    3 3rdStng

    Same here. Docker image latest-23344-ca53d088. And I am aware that he would need more details. I'm not reporting this has a bug since he hasn't blessed 2.3.7 yet. I actually upgraded earlier in the day and some rules were triggering just fine. It wasn't until the evening when a lot of my logic was SUPER slow, delayed, or not working at all. Which would make sense if MSR couldn't chat with the hub.
    I don't subscribe to the remote backups, so I don't think that bug will effect me. But good to know, thanks.

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  • [RESOLVED] PSA for Hubitat 2.3.7.x upgrade
    3 3rdStng

    If you are thinking about upgrading your Hubitat Elevation hub from 2.3.6 to 2.3.7, and you are using MSR.... wait! I was trying to resolve a different issue with the HE and didn't even think twice about how MSR would react. Well... MSR was not happy and was complaining that the events feed had become unresponsive. And my automations were not working either. I have since reverted back to 2.3.6 and will happily wait for @toggledbits to do his magic.

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  • Possible Typo/Correction in Manual
    3 3rdStng

    Hi @toggledbits,

    I had an idea about my Echo speaking which windows or doors are open when an announcement is made reminding the family to close things up when it is hotter outside. Let me start off by saying I'm not great with expressions and in no way any programmer. To get started I read the How To: Expressions and what do you know, you have an example on how to do exactly what I am looking for. However I think I found a typo/correction that may be needed? Again, not a programmer here.

    In the How To: Expressions with Entities section you state the new expression called open_perimeter_doors and give the example with the end of null : doorid. In the description you state you order them this way because when the door_sensor.state is true, the door is closed/secure. I have a few different brands of contact sensors and all of them are just the opposite. They are true when they are open and false when they are closed. For me, this was an easy fix. I swapped them.

    What blew my mind and took a bit of thinking was a little further down in your example of joining the getEntity ID and getName.

    join( each doorid in perimeter_doors: do
               e = getEntity( doorid ),
               e.attributes.door_sensor.state ? null : e.getName()
           done
        , ", " )
    

    The "e.getName()" in the example would cause the expression to never evaluate. I needed to change this to "e.name". With e already being set as "getEntity( doorid )", only name was needing to be appended. In your example you are appending ".getName()", resulting in "getEntity( doorid).getName()"

    Again, NOT a programmer, but perhaps a stale How To example from before a major update to the expression logic? Just wanted to share my results in case the manual does need an update.

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    3 3rdStng

    I'm not in need of it. As I was moving off Lighting Director I just happened to notice they had a max number of lights. I think the OG DeusExMachina did too. I think how you have it would be more lifelike. Especially when you couple of a few specific OFF rules so the lights turn off faster than 10-20 minutes.

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  • Function sanity check please
    3 3rdStng

    MSR: latest-23078-d592d400
    --Docker image on unRAID
    Hubitat C-7: 2.3.5.121

    I'm always looking to simplify my rules and reactions and having finally grasped the Array function with a loop of perform.Action, I decided to re-write one of my rules. The kids like to play music on the Echo devices at a high volume, and I also have TTS loud during the night if a door/window are to open. In order to not have her yell at me later, I wrote a rule that resets the volume on each Echo device to a level of 2. However having 7 Echo's, there are many steps in my Reaction. Set the volume on device 1, wait a few seconds, set the volume on the device 2, wait, and so on.

    Sample snippet of the set reaction: (This works BTW.)
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    To make it better, I created an array of the devices and want to run a perform.Action command. Less steps with the same results. Or so I thought. The end result is now a volume level of 0 or 1. I think the Echo gets confused. Either way, not a level of 2 like I was expecting. BTW volume 1 across the room is too low, in case you were wondering.

    New set reaction:
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    ${{ each device in Echo_devices: performAction( device, 'volume.set', { level:0.20 } ); 0 }}
    

    The av_transport.stop works as expected. The issue is with the volume.set, {level:0.20}. Do I have something wrong in my command?

    Global expressions used:
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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    3 3rdStng

    @kellyjelly32 Is there a way to specify how many lights should be on at one time? I tested REM last night and the most on at the same time appeared to be two. I'm fine with this, but curious if there was an option or way to adjust it. Again, thanks for sharing your logic.

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  • Reactor Ex Machina
    3 3rdStng

    Ahh... I miss that app. Probably one of my favorites from my Vera days. The "Lighting Director" app on Hubitat just isn't the same.

    Thanks for posting your setup @kellyjelly32. I've mocked this into my MSR and if all works well, DeusExMachina returns. Well kinda

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  • [RESOLVED] How quickly should logs rotate?
    3 3rdStng

    @toggledbits Awesome. Thank you.

    I know you know, but for others, the rule ID is also noted in the logs. Makes it easier to copy and paste without having to look up the ID within the GUI.
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  • [RESOLVED] How quickly should logs rotate?
    3 3rdStng

    Thank you. I changed all my rules that had a presence sensor written in them. As well as a few other rules that have an app that phones home every minute. Just restarted MSR for good measure and can see a different. I'm over 30 minutes right now between .log and .log.1.

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