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Hello Everyone,
I am using iPhone locator on Vera, and yesterday it stopped working. Looking at the logs, I can see the connection is refused, but nothing on my end changed. iPhone locator is really important in my particular setup, so I guess I have two questions.
Is it broken, or is it me?
I don't see anyone else saying there is an issue, but I am not sure how many people are still using it (or Vera for location) at this point. I installed it on a blank Vera test controller, same issue. It might be something with the iCloud account, but it works everywhere else.Is there something similar on another platform?
Mainly what I would like is the ability to force a poll of iCloud location on demand. I have a bunch of triggers setup, including magnetic sensors in my driveway to sense vehicles and determine if the motion is egress or ingress. These triggers in conjunction with MSR have been a great way to double check phone location, and I would hate to lose this functionality. It looks like HA might have something with "iCloud3". Is anyone using it?
Thanks,
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@akbooer said in
The only thing left on Vera is now electricity meter readers, and I simply can't find any suitable WiFi replacement.
My hem stopped reporting this august and I’ve replaced it with a Shelly EM. I’m using another one on my solar and they’re amazing fast to report and quite precise. They’re WiFi, and mqtt based. Recommended!
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Good morning all,
I've got a stable Home Assistant running on a RPI 4 with a Aeotec Z-Stick 7 Plus, and of course the Z-wave JS integration. I've manually moved a handful of devices, and I'm overall much happier with the HA z-wave capability than I am with Vera. There are still some things I'm trying to figure out that I have in Vera that I'm not sure how they'll work in HA, but no deal breakers.I've got all of my automation on MSR and off of luup Reactor, so really the only thing left for me is to migrate my Z-wave network. I saw @rafale77's post about using a Zwave.me UZB1 to Zway, but of course that's not what I'm using.
Is there a similar method that I can use my Aeotec Z-Stick 7 plus to Home Assistant? I have around 70 Z-wave devices (give or take devices that generate multiple instances in Vera), so manual unpairing, including, etc, would be quite a chore.
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Script to disable all the mios/vera proprietary program and broadcast its zwave and zigbee radio serial ports in your network so it can be picked up by another controller... For example z-way.
rafale77/Nuke-Vera rafale77/Nuke-VeraScript to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports - rafale77/Nuke-Vera
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Long story short: I need to tweak some parameters for Fibaro Plugs, to remove frequent notifications about watts (I just need a very good approximation, in order to detect the cycle of washer/dryer), but the parameters depend on the firmware version, and I have:
271,1554,21554
and the other one has:
271,4102,0
Any help is apprreciated.
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Hi all! I am almost relieved from Vera 🙏. Around 65 decices to go. Of which some are on very hard places (under floor etc.). Is there any way to easily get the vera devices on the zwave network without repairing them per piece?
I think I knowthe answer, but I am asking 😉
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Anyone installed the new beta f/w on their Vera unit and liking it?
Read https://community.ezlo.com/t/7-32-vera-firmware-beta-release/217060
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So ... I am trying to do the following:
Current setup:
Vera Plus (1.7.4955) Zwave only -> HASSIO VM (full control via Vera Integration)Future Target:
HASSIO VM (leveraging zwave.me UZB1 dongle via USB)I have done the following so far:
Updated UZB1 dongle (via RPi SmartHome) to latest 5.39 FirmwareI followed the following steps to try and migrate my existing Z-Wave NW (currently on Vera) onto the UZB1 dongle following the steps listed here:
Problem:
Steps 1-3: went fine (although the dumps are labeled as dongle.6.1.dump.x)
Step 4: went fine and the UZB1 was recognized as it should be (per dmesg)
Step 5: updating the port to /dev/ttyACM0 went fine, although I didn't see any indication of luup reload (or a save button for that matter when updating the port mapping)
Step 6: I did the touch for dongle.restore, but wasn't sure where to trigger a luup reload (I assumed it was Z-Wave Settings > Advanced > Reload Engine). I believe I got an error message when trying to do that step
Step 7: verify dongle.restore.go I don't recall being in the directions when I was going the test, but I rebooted
Post Reboot: None of my previous z-wave devices were listed. I also checked dmesg via ssh and noticed the following items:
[ 4.328000] Unsupported Device! [ 4.328000] Vendor=658 ProdID=200 [ 4.328000] Manufacturer= Product=I saw that item a couple times which almost seems like Vera is blocking the UZB1 or at least complaining about it.
I ended up switching the Z-Wave back to the embedded controller, and restoring configuration from backup.
Any suggestions what I did wrong??
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Have Aeotec Smart Switch 6 in use with Vera Plus (fw 7.31 - 1.7.5186, decoupled) and now as I'm trying to change its configuration, it seems impossible.
Screenshot 2021-09-07 at 11.21.28.png
"Save changes" just initiates luup reload, but parameters stay the same. "Configure node right now" does not help either, Vera informs that command sent, but nothing happens. Hard refresh of the browser done.
Device itself is working, e.g. it reports current wattage.
"Automatically configure" is set to "No", if set to "Yes", configuration change is initiated but fails with the message "Failed at: Setting special association"
EDIT: in the end this was solved by unplugging the switch and then plugging it back, some internal state corrupted...
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Hi there,
I know this was floating around on the other forum but just hoping someone can post the steps as I’m finally biting the bullet and moving to a USB stick and Zwave JS in home assistant.
Thanks!
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So, I recently added Pi-Hole (pi-hole.net) to my networked clients for its open-sourced Ad and Tracker Blocking. Essentially, it’s a DNS Blacklisting solution and it can display the Domains being accessed.
To my dismay I’m seeing the VERA+ attempting calls to facebook.com on a regular basis between 20 – 70 minutes each.
The Active apps on VERA are Sercomm IP Camera, Amazon Alexa Helper, Garage Door, Foscam HD, Reator, SiteSensor and Ezlo Cameras. I just recently removed AltUI before disconnecting from the cloud services.Any ideas on how I could track down the culprit caller?
Thanks for your consideration.
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I've got a Nokia/Withings bathroom scale on which I weigh myself daily. I used to use IFTTT to push every weighing result into a Google Spreadsheet in the cloud, but now that I use MSR, I'm more interested in integrating this data into that workflow.
Has anyone figured out a way to move data from a WiFi-connected scale into the Vera environment? I don't mind trying something indirect, as for instance I've already linked the weights over to my Google Fit app.
Open to suggestions!
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Recently I have been getting constant reloads on my Vera Plus running the latest 7.32 beta build. It usually starts after a 3-4 day Luup uptime and the reloads start at around 5am local time and keep going every 30 mins until I physically restart my Vera Plus (unplugging and plugging it back in). Right before a reload I see on the status bar above the modes on the homepage "cannot write user data" then after a few minutes a reload occurs. Looking into the logs I have seen mention of 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> almost every single time a reload happens. I have attached logs from 2 instances this morning where a reload happened. I have noticed that the OpenSprinkler plugin has been very chatty even though I have set debugging to 0, is that what is filling up temp log system?
01 06/21/21 8:45:58.123 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a148520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.031 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244271 1244271 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.333 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.334 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.341 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234902 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.342 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.344 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.632 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.634 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.635 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x7662b520> 02 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.636 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1099d38/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1a02d48/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.637 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 06 06/21/21 8:45:59.638 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x12b9e60/NONE duplicate:0 <0x7662b520> 01 06/21/21 8:45:59.648 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 23822220 type 7 code user_data <0x7642b520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.381 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244349 1244349 <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.675 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.676 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234875 save size 234865 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.680 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.682 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 01 06/21/21 8:46:01.940 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234875 vs 234875 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.941 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.943 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.944 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x770dc320> 02 06/21/21 8:46:01.945 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x770dc320> 50 06/21/21 8:46:03.102 luup_log:1304: VeraOpenSprinkler[1.50]: [updateFromController] error: false - nil - nil <0x72581520> 01 06/21/21 8:46:05.210 Main WatchDogRoutine: blocked - terminating 1 <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 Dumping 40 locks <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.211 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.212 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.213 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.214 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.215 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.216 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100746) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6f948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.217 finished check for exceptions <0x695de520> 02 06/21/21 8:46:05.218 OL: (0xbbc560) (>100751) Variable JobHandler_LuaUPnP.cpp l:9817 time: 4:00:00p (1624290365 s) thread: 0x6d948520 Rel: Y Got: Y <0x695de520> 2021-06-21 08:46:05 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 137 03 06/21/21 8:53:18.102 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::Reload: low memory Critical 1 m_bCriticalOnly 0 dirty data 1 running 1 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.103 luup_log:901: Tesla Car_error: Monitor awake state, failed #400 HTTP/1.1 400 BAD REQUEST !! <0x72ffd520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.482 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244185 1244185 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234865 save size 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.781 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.782 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::WriteUserData failed File Size: 234865 save size 234875 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.787 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:18.789 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:18.813 IOPort::Connect connect -1 192.168.8.43:23 <0x6a7c4520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::WriteUserData failed result:1 size2:234865 vs 234865 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.020 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 1 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.023 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.027 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:19.028 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 0 res:0 (null) <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 1 now: 2 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x14bad80/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.029 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 1 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZWaveNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: Resetting ZWave Network #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x1e23b10/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.033 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusID was: 0 now: 3 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 01 06/21/21 8:53:19.040 RAServerSync::SendAlert notification lost quit 1 device 50002761 servers:vera-us-oem-event12.mios.com/vera-us-oem-event11.mios.com for time 20546340 type 7 code user_data <0x76ca7520> 06 06/21/21 8:53:19.044 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeNetwork1 variable: NetStatusText was: OK now: GET_LANG(resetting_zigbee_network,Resetting Zigbee Network) #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:0x16dadc0/NONE duplicate:0 <0x76aa7520> 02 06/21/21 8:53:20.807 UserData::CommitToDatabase data size 1244263 1244263 <0x77759320> 01 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::WriteUserData saved--before move File Size: 234875 save size 234875 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.081 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.116 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.117 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 699 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234909 Jun 21 06:50 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.new <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.228 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure start 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure (not failure, only WriteUserData) 0 <0x77759320> 02 06/21/21 8:53:21.259 UserData::TempLogFileSystemFailure 610 res:1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 504 Jun 26 2017 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.luup.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234875 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234865 Jun 21 08:53 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234996 Jun 21 08:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.2 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234930 Jun 21 08:02 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.3 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234968 Jun 21 07:47 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 234658 Jun 21 07:11 /etc/cmh/user_data.json.lzo.5 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.465 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: PendingRemoveDevices was: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 now: 0024460000144655-01d8,0024460000146120-a155,00244600001467ad-a538 #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 06 06/21/21 8:53:21.469 Device_Variable::m_szValue_set device: 2 service: urn:micasaverde-com:serviceId:ZigbeeDevice1 variable: UnknownDevices was: now: #hooks: 0 upnp: 0 skip: 0 v:(nil)/NONE duplicate:1 <0x77759320> 03 06/21/21 8:53:22.100 LuaUPNP: ending <0x77759320> 2021-06-21 08:53:22 - LuaUPnP Terminated with Exit Code: 0``` -
Hi,
Some devices, I don't know why, stay in a tripped state after the trigger has already closed.
Let me try to explain better.
A door sensor is tripped when it opens the door, for some reason it does not go back to an Untripped state when it closes. Or a motion sensor likewise, arms with a movement, and then does not disarm even though there is no more presence to justify being armed.
Is it possible by some command to make the device reevaluate its state? If the door was closed, and it is still indicating open, reevaluate and put the correct state of closed door?
Thanks.
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I have 6 stations in the Open Sprinkler web page/app, however after installing the Vera plugin, only 2 stations appear as Vera devices. I have uninstalled and re-installed, but same result.
I have 3 programs in Open Sprinkler and all of them show up in Vera.
Not sure what I need to do for the other stations to show up as devices in Vera.
Note: I installed the plugin using the Vera apps listing by simply clicking the 'Install' button.
Any help you can provide would be much appreciated @therealdb
Thanks,
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Hello, all!
For several years now I've had a Vera Edge at home providing all my z-wave needs. I only really use it as a mechanism to get all my devices integrated into home assistant, which is the brains of the operation.
Recently I ordered a few new z-wave devices that have z-wave 700 chips. They work fine with the Vera (albeit with some more advanced features unavailable), but I figure the Vera's days are numbered are there was a really good pre-order deal available on an Ezlo Plus, so I bought one of those too expecting it would be a drop-in replacement for the aging Vera.
It arrived yesterday, and how wrong I was. There isn't any local control at all as best as I can tell, I can't integrate it with Home Assistant, and doing anything at all requires a clunky app and the cloud. Not what I want.
Googling around I found this post on the home assistant community from few years back from someone who killed the running Vera software on their Vera Edge and ran some software to expose the serial Z-Wave chip to the network so Home Assistant could work with it directly. It looks like that idea eventually evolved into a script that automates the process of nuking the Vera.
Despite just barely knowing what I'm doing I'm giving the same approach a shot on the Ezlo Plus. The first barrier was that ser2net wasn't installed and wasn't available in the mios repo, so I've compiled it from source and I just got it running.
So far that's as far as I've gotten, but I'm interested in hearing from the community - especially those of you with more knowledge and experience. I have home assistant running on a server in my basement so the goal of network-attached radios that can be better located in the house is an attractive one, but is there even merit to the approach I'm trying to take? Is there a simpler way to get the Ezlo Plus working with Home Assistant that I'm overlooking? Has anyone else already done this and I'm just reinventing the wheel for no good reason? Should I just chalk the Ezlo up as a poor purchasing decision and get on with my life?
Looking forward to your responses!
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First I want to say thank you to this group. You have given me ideas and help along the HA path for a long time.
I'm an old Vera user and planning to decouple from MIOS cloud now or after 7.32 but I'm stuck at how to push messages out.
I'm using Reactor and Scenes for Vera native messaging. What's a good solution going forward?Also want to mention that after reading the Decoupling document I have built a NTP GPS server on a Pi3B and enjoyed learning more about Linux along the way. I have it stabilized after learning 100 different ways.
Thanks
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Hello Everyone -
Can someone point me in the proper direction of doing a Vera (Secure) backup?
Specifically, I'm worried about a controller failure and unable to source a new one where I could just use the included backup facilities.
I'm considering staying on Vera a little longer to see what happens with Ezlo (especially around easy migrations).
I know I can manually run backups from the UI but wondering if there's a more "standard" method that would allow me to move to another platform if required. This would require me to pull my (important definition, I feel. This shouldn't be a secret) encryption key off of the Vera as part of the backup - so any pointers there would be helpful as well.
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Does anyone have a quick way to delete multiple devices without having to do a reload between each delete? I have about 20 child devices to get rid of and it will take forever to delete them all one by one with a reload in between.
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This is just a note for anyone who wants to delete the duplicate child devices the Vera likes to create. In my pervious experience when I would delete a child device (duplicate or not) the parent device would get deleted too.
What I now have discovered is that if you go into AltUI and clear the value set in the attribute for the child device called id_parent you can simply delete the child device without the parent device getting deleted.
I am unsure if the new FW recently added the ability to delete child devices like this, but now I went from 30+ child devices down to the expected 4. Hope this helps someone out!
Second Z-wave netwerk or slave controler
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I have a VeraPlus and would like to purchase a second z-wave controler. Is it possible to build a second z-wave network next to an existing z-wave network? Slowly I want to move devices form Vera to the new z-wave network. Is it more advisable to install the second z-wave controller as a slave controler?
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I run multiple Zwave networks (up to four of them, in fact) without any problem.
You definitely don't want a slave controller as that will become part of the original network. Integration between them can be done at a higher level (using openLuup, for example.)
Bear in mind that Zwave is a mesh network topology, which benefits from a fairly dense set of nodes. By having two separate networks, they won't share the same mesh, but they do all live in the same RF bandwidth. I've never found this to be an issue.
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Thanks for quick response! I think I wil also run a multiple zwave netwerk for testing devices.
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@akbooer said in Second Z-wave netwerk or slave controler:
Integration between them can be done at a higher level
Hi @akbooer
What are the options, and what are the pros/cons of each ?
I’ve personally just used the http request option..
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As I posted elsewhere, my analysis using a zwave zniffer shows that:
- You can run multiple zwave networks but it is not recommended because zwave functions only on 2 or 3 channels depending on your region and each zwave controller makes use of all of them. This means, 2 zwave controllers/network devices will interfere with one another causing latencies as they will therefore have to retry when the RF messages are come scrambled.
- The vera chattier than any other controller due to its insane and broken self management scheme so larger networks, your chances of running into problems will be even more amplified.
On openLuup you really can go either way. A second zwave network really makes sense only if it is not located in such a way that two networks would interfere with one another. If your network is relatively small (less than ~30 devices) it probably doesn't matter which way you go but anything larger than that, I would recommend the secondary controller option which eventually can open the option to just transfer the primary role to the secondary controller without having to exclude/include any devices. That's how I along with @DesT and others for example did it. I have over 150 nodes and really didn't want to exclude/include the entire network.
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@rafale77, Thank you for your response. I have read your blog on GitHub (https://github.com/rafale77/Z-Way/blob/master/README.md) with full interest. Thank you for the time you put into it. I have taken the following steps:
- Buy a Pi 4
- Install OpenLuup / Reactor on Pi4
- Install VeraBridge plugin for OpenLuup
- Migrate all my reactor sensors from Vera to OpenLuup
- Delete al scenes and Plug Ins on Vera
- Use OpenLuup to make new reactors
Now I have come to the point of purchasing a UZB1 stick. I want to use it with the help of home assistant or domoticz.
My vera has a problem. Everything works perfectly, but when I log in via home.getvera sometimes I see the following message on different devices:
• Please wait! Polling node
• SUCCESS! Successfully polled node
• Can't Detect Device
• Error: node is not configuredI had contact Vera support about the problem. I must reset my Vera completely and build from scratch again!
I don't want to include this problem in my new zwave installation. That is why I want to start building from scratch with UZB1 stick. I have about 40 devices. It's a lot of work, but I hope to build a stable system. That's the reason I want to build a new zwave network.
Sorry for the poor English but I am using google translate.
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Hi Edwin,
I am not a native english speaker myself and your post was very clear.
The vera errors are mostly caused by the vera "maintenance" features.
It's important to understand that there are two layers of configurations which the vera mixes in their management system. One is the software level which is done by the luup engine or in more generic terms the host controller software, and another layer which is the zwave chip level. They each store different device data and the vera reads the data both from the zwave chip non volatile memory and the user configuration file (user_data.json). Your issues could be caused by either one of the configuration but.... When you transfer your network to another controller, other controllers, unlike the vera, can very easily get the device reconfigured without excluding and restarting the whole process. The vera support advice is what I call "shotgunning" at the problem without trying to understand what is wrong which is completely unacceptable to me. They are just hoping that starting from scratch will fix the problem. Kind of like the vera restarts and reloads. It is a recommendation out of ignorance and despair. I would completely ignore their advices. They are inaccurate and not a scalable solution.The only case of real required exclusion/reinclusion for z-wave is the security key exchange which is allowed by the devices only during the inclusion process. The rest is all data corruption which can easily be recovered through a reconfiguration either with a NIF/Discovery call at the zwave level or a reconfiguration of the host controller data. The root cause for most of these data corruption is rarely at the zwave level (It can only happen if there are some corrupted data coming from the zwave RF which usually are caused by data collision from overly chatty networks), it is often due to the host controller software. The vera is very prone to both these problems because of its "maintenance" design which is not scalable beyond a handful of devices.
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@rafale77, Thank you for your comment and sharing your knowledge
Do you have a suggestion to solve the problem with my VeraPlus?If I understand correctly, I can set my UZB dongle as slave of VeraPlus and later on I can move the VeraPlus devices without moving the problem to the UZB dongle.
I'm still not sure if I need to set up a separate Pi4 for use UZB dongle with home assists or Can I connect the UZB dongle to my existing Pi4 running OpenLuup, Node-Red and Grafana and install Home assistant.
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@Edwin1972 I would go the route to install openzwave (QT), natively in home assistant with a UZB or other zwave dongle (I have aeotec gen5). Then integrate vera in homeassistant and that way you will have "2" zwave networks. Any device failing in Vera include in openzwave and any new devices also. Logic can be done in homeassistant natively or node red (what I use). Rocksolid, superflexible and bringing back fun in home automation.
I only have to worry about "other stuff" not working (automations, wifi, etc.) and not about a vera, openluup, zway, etc...
.The community.home-assistant.io forum is "alive"! For me it feels like the early Vera forum days, before I was banned for 1000 years there. I never looked back!
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I don't share @sender's level of enthusiasm for home-assistant/openzwave and it's good to have a diversity of inputs.
Home-assistant is becoming a bit of a mess and becoming more and more difficult to manage with all the container/supervisor structure. openzwave is also work in progress and is still very far from the stability and control you get from z-way.
I run home assistant but started my own fork because it has areas of inefficiencies and gaps in functionality while providing an outstanding integration base.You understood correctly, you can add the uzb dongle as a secondary controller to your vera network if you so desire to see how it works out for you and when you decide to migrate, you can just exclude it and do what I did as I described on my github page and on my blog page. Basically have the vera replace its internal zwave chip with the uzb and then take the uzb to whichever controller you want be it z-way or openzwave.
As sender said, you can use practically any other usb zwave stick, the aeotec would be the only ones I would not recommend because of its proprietary non upgradable firmware. The gen5 is stuck on a very old SDK which won't support any of the zwave+ new features and Aeotec just released a gen5+ with still an older SDK than what the uzb currently has.
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@rafale77 said in Second Z-wave netwerk or slave controler:
The uzb presents the advantage to work on both z-way and openzwave
...did you mean "openLuup"?
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No, I did mean z-way and openzwave as the zwave host controller.
openzwave would then be bridged into home assistant and z-way into openluup. These are two possible approaches...
Obviously if one has largely invested into the vera in terms of automation (scenes) openluup-z-way is the much simpler/easiest approach but if someone wants to start from scratch like @sender did... well I would still pick the same approach but some people may prefer going to the more integrated but less complete in z-way term home-assistant approach.There is something to the complexity of managing linux dependencies which has lead to the whole container approach. Some people really prefer this immediate ease of implementation. I really don't as I think in the long run, it is replacing an immediate inconvenience with another higher level of inefficiency and complexity which eventually will be even more complex and tedious to run. It is where home assistant is at today and why I forked my own version and won't run it "supervised" nor will install any containerized integration on it.
It is philosophically not so different from the downspin of the vera trying to do unnecessary maintenances thinking it would improve customer convenience without thinking about the scalability and the opportunity cost of the approach. -
@rafale77. Thanks again for your information. If I understand correctly, I am on the right track with UZB-stick only you advisor to purchase the z-way software. I think this can be done by purchasing a UZB stick, including license. I think there is also a bridge between Z-way and openluup and I can use openluup as logic (reactor from Rigpapa) for my automation.
The question remains whether I can run openluup, node-red, grafana and also Z-way with UZB on my RP4 or is it better to run a new Pi4 with UZB-stick and z-way next to the existing Pi4?
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I think you can run all of them on a single rPi4. They are not resource intensive at all. The only thing I would caution with the rPi is the sd-card which is notoriously unreliable. I would try to run everything from a larger SATA SSD. There are many tutorial showing how to do this online. You could also even run all this on a rPi3B which has less of a overheating problem.
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Which would give you a lot more configurability, ease of installation, reliability, lower power consumption, lower heat, more processing headroom and will come out to be cheaper than the rPi4 at the end after you take the power supply, the storage and the case under consideration.
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Is there any way I could leverage an unused ezlo Atom (v2) to act as a repeater in my Vera Plus setup?
I do not foresee using the Atom in any other way, and since it's a plug-in, it could be handy (I think!) for extending the range of my Z-Wave network a bit.
Something tells me this -- asking a controller to act as a device -- is not even possible. But still had to ask!
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It would have to have a firmware to do that so as to act as a routing node. Given the nature of the device... not sure if it is possible. You already know what I did with mine...
