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Rule condition shows TRUE in UI but Rule never transitions to SET — survives full restart
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Build: latest-26221-b25bb3e3, Docker on Synology. Hi, I have a Rule whose Trigger/Constraints reference other Rules via Rule State ... is TRUE. At some point it stops firing. Expanding the rule's condition tree in the UI shows every Trigger and Constraint condition green/TRUE — confirmed live by walking into the room and watching Motion go true in real time. Rule History shows no new SET, just old reset entries. Tried, on the same rule, same evening: recreating the trigger conditions with fresh IDs, recreating the constraint conditions with fresh IDs (flat and wrapped in a new Group — wrapping in a Group produced one SET, but it didn't reproduce on repeat attempts with the same structure), and finally a full container restart with a verified-correct saved rule. Still no SET, even with a fresh live motion event right after the restart. Separately, I found that this rule (and its 10 per-room clones) share identical internal condition/group IDs with each other — leftover from a batch clone done months ago, never regenerated. Not sure if that's related, since fixing the IDs didn't reliably fix the symptom either. Has anyone seen a Rule State condition show TRUE in the UI without the Rule ever producing a SET, surviving a clean restart? Thanks in advance
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DynamicGroupController and attributes
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits I'm back to trying to optimize a couple of things based on dynamic group. First of all, I think I found a typo in the doc: primary_attribute: "binary_sensor.state" primary_attribute_value: | d = false; each id in members: d = getEntity(id)?.attributes?.power_switch?.state or d, d I think the correct code snippet is d = false, All that said, my use case for dynamic groups is to group 3 different climate devices, so I could easily command them at the same time. Commands are good, but sometimes I want to check if any of the devices are on, and that's easily done with a similar snippet as the one you have in the docs. But this is limited to the primary attribute, while I want to have any of the attributes in the group to be driven by a similar logic (while all are null in the group). ie, access hvac_control.mode and see if any of the unit is set to cool, or heat. Is that possible, without re-defining an expression in each of my rules? Thanks!
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Reactor (Multi-System/Multi-Hub) Announcements
toggledbitsT
Build 21228 has been released. Docker images available from DockerHub as usual, and bare-metal packages here. Home Assistant up to version 2021.8.6 supported; the online version of the manual will now state the current supported versions; Fix an error in OWMWeatherController that could cause it to stop updating; Unify the approach to entity filtering on all hub interface classes (controllers); this works for device entities only; it may be extended to other entities later; Improve error detail in messages for EzloController during auth phase; Add isRuleSet() and isRuleEnabled() functions to expressions extensions; Implement set action for lock and passage capabilities (makes them more easily scriptable in some cases); Fix a place in the UI where 24-hour time was not being displayed.
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Unofficial thread for compatibility
tunnusT
As there are statements about compatibility for home assistant versions in MSR new version announcements (e.g. "HassController: Bless Hass to 2025.7.3"), I thought it would be good idea to track other controllers as well. As an example, I can confirm that build "latest-25208-c53e8513" works with Hubitat Elevation C-8 platform version 2.4.2.134 using Maker API. Updates: (the latest versions first in the list) OK: build "latest-25264-2fbe9217" with Hubitat C-8 platform v. 2.4.3.123
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Ooops - Deleted Reactor Ex Machina II
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I accidentally deleted Reactor Ex Machina II (REM II) from my Reactor rules. I tried to recover it by deleting the .json and .dval in the Rules subdirectory and then recreating it from Togglebits original posting, but that did not work. Does anyone know how to recover REM ll ?
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Bail out of failed reaction?
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Arming Envisalink panel from MSR
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[Solved] DynamicGroupController updating members issue
CrilleC
Edit: Solved in latest-26221. Bare-metal latest-26193 I have this group: "OKforLarm": name: OK för Larm select: - include_controller: vera - include_capability: door_sensor filter_expression: entity.attributes.door_sensor.state It contains the entities I expect but behaves a bit odd. When I open vera>device_10097 the entity attribute door_sensor.state changes to true but it won't show up as member in the group, when I also open vera>device_10095 they both shows as members and when I close vera>device_10095 it disappear from the group but when I close vera>device_10097 it lingers in the group until I restart Reactor.
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Upgrade Issues
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[SOLVED] Conflicting Set Reaction Groups Appear to Fire Simultaneously in Single Rule Evaluation
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[SOLVED] Question regarding "in" vs "contains" vs contents of the string
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openLuup console disappeared - 500 - Internal Server Error
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Love openLuup - it just keeps working perfectly. I started looking at trying to add a gen4 Shelly device to the Shelly plugin via L_ShellyBridge.lua. The plugin is a little uncooked (no rudeness intended), so a bit of a rabbit hole for me. All of a sudden no console pages available in either Firefox or Chrome. AltUI works perfectly and all the log files indicate no errors. openLuup still running everything works as it should - just no console pages. I possibly screwed something up but any recently changes files show no problems. The original/ backup of L_ShellyBridge.lua was reinstated but still no console. Bit stumped on this one. Not sure how to debug. Any ideas?
Plugins
Logon screen timeout
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Noticing since 170 that the lock screen doesn't switch to the logon prompt but, rather, stays on the active UI until such time as you go to click something within it. Then it jumps to the login screen. Brave browser Brave 1.92.139 (Official Build) (arm64) Chromium: 150.0.7871.114
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[MSR] Copy&past of actions and/or drag&drop between set/reset
therealdbT
Hey @toggledbits One thing that bothers me while doing work on new systems/new features, is that I cannot copy&paste actions, and I cannot drag&drop between set and resets. #1 is for when I want to copy an action between different rules opened in two separate browser windows, while #2 is when I just need to flip a bunch of actions in the reset, or move some logic back and forth. Both will be appreciated, but I understand the technical challenges. Thanks!
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Upgrade advice - upgrade from aarch64 to ARM64 image
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I'm currently on version 26011. I understand that the aarch64 image is no longer supported. So, I therefore need to update to the ARM64 image. Can anyone possibly suggest how I update my docker compose.yaml file (see below). Ideally I'd like to keep my existing reactions etc. rather than start from scratch. # Multi-System Reactor template docker-compose.yml (version 22160) # # Change the lines indicated by "DO"... # services: reactor: container_name: reactor environment: # DO change the TZ: line to set your local time zone. # See valid TZ list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tz_database_time_zones TZ: GB # # DO NOT change this path. Your directory location is in "source" below. REACTOR_DATA_PREFIX: /var/reactor # DO change the image below to the one you are using (e.g. armv7l or aarch64 for RPi 4) image: toggledbits/reactor:latest-aarch64 restart: "always" expose: - 8111 ports: - 8111:8111 volumes: # DO change the /home/username/reactor below to the directory you created for # your local data; DO NOT change the /var/reactor part - /home/pi/docker/reactor:/var/reactor - /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro tmpfs: /tmp
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Alexa for MSR, any interest?
MikeReadingtonM
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Ezlo Paid Subscription for Vera Cloud Services
toggledbitsT
It appears that Ezlo is going to new levels of paid subscription for cloud services supporting Vera hubs. I have to congratulate them. It will soon be 8 years since Ezlo acquired Vera, and despite their purported financial and "intellectual" capital, they have to date not produced a viable full replacement for Vera. Now they are going to charge extra for services for a platform that they stopped updating years ago. If you know anyone who hasn't yet fully moved on from Captain Ahab's White Whale Chase, please remind them that my Decouple project is still up on Github to decouple a Vera Plus/Secure/Edge from Vera/Ezlo's cloud services. Veras have been said to misbehave when they can't reach the mother ship. I have also written my first new Vera plugin in... six years? more?... the AlertPushover project will send Vera hub alerts to Pushover, so you can still get messages generated by your Vera hub without paying for Ezlo's cloud service. It's crude but functional (i.e. better than nothing/worth every penny paid). These two projects won't replace the functionality of their cloud service and app for those who need those things. But any that don't, this may help bridge the gap. Hopefully these stragglers who have waited so long and been disappointed so often will get the idea that it's time to move on.
General Discussion
[RESOLVED] Telegram notification broke with latest update
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[RESOLVED] Phantom device, “INFO” appears
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[RESOLVED] Mode Status NULL
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  • Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device
    CrilleC Crille

    @librasun I totally understand your philosophy and tried to stick with stock setups as well but who has the time and patient to wait for Ezlo to accomplish a fraction of what is available already today.
    That said, I'm so thrilled I started migrating to openLuup and MSR, best decision ever! Sure it's not going to be easy for anyone to take over this setup but the possibilities and stability is totally worth it.

    @akbooer and @toggledbits you guys rock!!

    Homebridge is the key for Apple devices regarding manual control for WAF.

    Vera

  • Localization
    CrilleC Crille

    @toggledbits I've done a (test) Swedish translation for MSR, I don't want/need a translated version, but I had the time and perhaps some future users would find it useful 🙂
    I noticed it's a bit early in the process to go live with systemwide localizations so no github in place yet, do you want input on this now or should we wait a few releases? considering it may be low priority issues.
    If so, do you want feedback here or in mantis?

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Finally gave up on my Ezlo Plus
    CrilleC Crille

    The promise of "all available devices will be supported" gave me hope for including more Zigbee devices into to my home as Vera was not a good option for Zigbee devices.

    Despite the support for new devices is extremely slow, the implementation of Zigbee has a lot to wish for and it seems a low priority at Ezlo I managed to include 22 of my 23 Zigbee devices as generic. But after 2 years of devices still missing attributes and randomly/every controller reboot loosing connection to the controller and had to be power cycled to connect again, and some even dropping off the network completely without any reason, I decided to give up.

    The positive outcome of all this:
    I bought a Sonoff Zigbee 3.0 USB Dongle Plus and installed Zigbee2MQTT and never been happier.
    Suddenly the pairing were no pain and took a few seconds per device, all my devices were recognized, all capabilities of the devices were exposed and it never misses a signal to/from a device ever.

    I'm surprised how stable and configurable my new setup is. I can set device parameters, offsets, send messages handled by the bulbs them self like effects, broadcast for groups, transition time for power on/off. I can handle debounce for MQTT messages, do OTA firmware update on devices and much more! Most of this is probably standard for the common branded hubs like Hue etc but I never had one so this is new to me.
    A big plus for me is the MQTT part of Zigbee2MQTT as I'm migrating as much as possible to MQTT.

    My Ezlo Plus is now serving as a modified WiFi access point to my network and only have the VistaCam 1203 Doorbell still connected for evaluation. Time will tell if I ever move my Z-wave devices to it.

    Conclusion:
    I could really recommend both the Sonoff 3.0 USB Dongle Plus and Zigbee2MQTT to anyone going the same path!

    Blogs

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    CrilleC Crille

    @akbooer I’m afraid you’re right. They read your pm.
    I’m not banned, just joining another, perhaps more interesting forum 🙂

    Vera

  • Vera account suspended for a 1000 years
    CrilleC Crille

    WTF me too!

    Vera

  • My MQTTController templates contribution
    CrilleC Crille

    I've made a few templates for MQTTController, mostly Zigbee2MQTT, and sharing them to the community if anyone else would find use for them.

    GitHub - calmen77/MSR-mqtt_templates: MQTT templates for Multi-hub Reactor

    GitHub - calmen77/MSR-mqtt_templates: MQTT templates for Multi-hub Reactor

    MQTT templates for Multi-hub Reactor. Contribute to calmen77/MSR-mqtt_templates development by creating an account on GitHub.

    These are the ones I'm using but I'm happy to add more Zigbee2MQTT templates if needed.

    Happy Holidays!

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  • Dark mode
    CrilleC Crille

    @DesT Any plans to reintroduce a dark theme to the forum?

    Comments & Feedback

  • Vera firmware 7.32 beta
    CrilleC Crille

    @wmarcolin I haven’t decoupled my Vera but use Homebridge for all local and remote control.

    Vera

  • Moving to Docker
    CrilleC Crille

    @akbooer and @LibraSun I think mine had an update button in AltUi and I just pressed it. After that VeraBridge showed up as a device and I configured it.

    Docker

  • Apple Homepod mini
    CrilleC Crille

    I love the simplicity of raising my hand and say to my watch "Open right garage door" when I'm approaching my home in my car, and if I forget, Siri asks me if I want to open it since I'm entering my geofence 🙂

    General Discussion

  • Unexpected stop of openLuup
    CrilleC Crille

    @akbooer I'm still having a lot of crashes but since I added an autorestart of the service it's not really a major problem anymore.
    Even though openLuup is rock solid for most people, may I suggest you add

    [Service]
    Restart=on-failure
    RestartSec=5s
    

    To the documentation for openLuup in the appendix for systemd?
    At least it helped me not coming home to a dead house 🙂

    openLuup

  • Can someone explain for me how to use Reset reaction in MSR without disturbing other rules.
    CrilleC Crille

    @toggledbits Yes, you are correct. My goal in my head was to make the Constraints condition FALSE to prevent the SET Reaction.

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  • Instant regret after clicking "Configure Node Right Now" on device
    CrilleC Crille

    Without openLuup and the excellent Ezlo Bridge, my Ezlo Plus would just annoy me and make me want to go somewhere else, as they kind of hinted with the ban raid.
    Big thanks to @mrFarmer ! for making use of the very beta product they shipped.

    Vera

  • Change in Plans (Don't Panic)
    CrilleC Crille

    @toggledbits I’m so thankful for the time and effort you put into MSR so the least I can do is give something back. I’d love to participate with my Ezlo Plus running about 20 zigbee devices in production, the logic is already in MSR so switching to a new interface would be easy for testing.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Localization
    CrilleC Crille

    A little preview of the Swedish version of MSR 🙂
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    Multi-System Reactor

  • Hot Water Recirc - Global Date/Time Variable
    CrilleC Crille

    @tbully date() does not exist as a function, I think you mean time()
    The value for the set variable in set reaction must be in the format of ${{time()}} to be evaluated to the global variable.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Reactor: How to call Hass service for noob
    CrilleC Crille

    @wokwon Your service should be esphome.nspensuite_send_command_printf and the data cmd: page home

    Multi-System Reactor

  • MSR Not Actioning
    CrilleC Crille

    I suggest you update to the latest build (23078 when posted). Your installed version is more than 7 months old so there’s a chance things changed since then.

    Multi-System Reactor

  • Logic Assistance: Exterior Lights on when Illuminance Below Threshold
    CrilleC Crille

    I have a local variable as trigger for cases like this. When lightsOn is true the rule sets.
    lightsOn =

    do
    lux = getEntity( "mosquitto-mqtt>rorelse_hallen" ).attributes.light_sensor.value,
    lights = getEntity( "mosquitto-mqtt>hallen1" ).attributes.power_switch.state,
    case
     when lux <= 17 : bool(true)
     when lights and lux >= 18 and lux <= 25 : bool(true)
     else bool(false)
    end
    done
    
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  • Migration Vera to HA > how to send sensor data from Vera to HA?
    CrilleC Crille

    Have you considered Reactor - Multi-hub Automation version?
    If not I strongly recommend this path for your automations as it has controllers for both Home Assistant and Vera.
    You can still use HA as UI but do all logic in Reactor Multi-hub, no learning curve when you are familiar with Reactor for Vera, you can import your Reactor for Vera into Reactor Multi-hub and set sensor data and variables directly to HA entities.

    Home Assistant
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