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DesTD

@akbooer

Since a couple of weeks/months, we are in the process to redo 5 rooms @ home (kids are moving from room to another room) and of course, I would need to redo a bunch of device name and room name in Zway..

Is there an easy way to tell openLuup to completely start over fresh without having to delete/rename them one by one in openLuup ?

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Help with Z-Way plugin
J

I hope this is the correct forum – apologies if not!

I have a Raspberry Pi3 with a Razberry Z-Wave card installed. I have installed the Z-Way software and have successfully included a Fibaro Z-Wave switch on the Z-Wave network. I can toggle the switch on and off successfully from my laptop through port 8083 of the Raspberry Pi3.

On the same Raspberry Pi3 I have installed openLuup on which I have installed the Z-Way plugin. I can access this through port 3480 on the Raspberry Pi3 from my laptop.

Here is where I have come to a dead stop. How do I get access to the Fibaro Z-Wave switch from the openLuup application? I can find no documentation that tells me specifically how to do this.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

_John.

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openLuup Z-Way bridge: Version Log
akbooerA

Master Branch: 2020 Release 4.5

Roll-up of recent changes in development branch.

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Fibaro Wall plug power metering
PerHP

I have an odd issue which seems to be only for Fibaro wall plugs. They come in to Z-Way with two "electric meter" entrys, one "Power" meter and a couple of alarm entrys. In addition to the switch that is.

One of the "electric meters" is KWh and the other one is seemingly Watts, but it stays at 0/-1w. The "Power" meter shows the Watts used right now.

When these come into openluup, the wrong electric meter is selected for displaying the Watts, is there any way to manipulate which one openLuup uses? I see that the sub channel for power also is transferred, but it isn't in the data Veraflux is transmitting to my influxdb..

Haven't used the watts reading for anything before now, now i want to estimate when my dryer is done based on power usage. 🙂

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Renaming device name...
DesTD

@akbooer

What's the "logic" behind zway plugin about renaming ? Are you always renaming when starting openLuup ?

Zway Bridge
Fibaro TRV on ZWay/OpenLuup?
I

Having some trouble getting the Fibaro TRV device working with the ZWay bridge. The device works in the ZWay (Zwave.Me) Smart Home GUI, and creates a number of devices in OpenLuup, some of which appear to have the right variables in it. Changing the XML and JSON files makes no difference.

I also tried creating a separate child device for Parameter 67 (using the gui for the ZWay bridge, see below), and setting the XML/JSON types for that device (like I've havd to do for a few other devices). This results in a device that correctly displays the TRV setpoint, but chaning the setpoint in the OpenLuup gui does not result in anything being transmitted to/by ZWay.

20490 49-0 D_ComboDevice1.xml zNode #49-0
49-0-113-8-12-A
49-0-113-8-13-A
49-0-113-8-14-A
49-0-113-8-15-A
49-0-113-9-3-A
49-0-64
49-0-67-1
20491 49-1 D_ComboDevice1.xml zNode #49-1
49-1-113-8-12-A
49-1-113-8-13-A
49-1-113-8-14-A
49-1-113-8-15-A
49-1-113-9-3-A
49-1-64
25031 49-1-67-1 D_Heater1.xml Radiator Bedroom
20492 49-2 D_ComboDevice1.xml multi #49-2
49-2-113-8-10-A
49-2-113-8-11-A
25030 49-2-49-1 D_TemperatureSensor1.xml Radiator Bedroom

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Z-way token Expiration
rafale77R

@akbooer, I just woke up to a z-way bridge token expiration again forcing me to login again and reload openluup. It appears to happen once a week. It doesn't appear that the auto renewal of the token is working?

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Why Migrate to Z-way from vera and how?
rafale77R

I expect this document to be dynamic based on inputs from people who try but did not want to completely rewrite it here:

Z-Way/README.md at master · rafale77/Z-Way Z-Way/README.md at master · rafale77/Z-Way

Zway plugin for openLuup . Contribute to rafale77/Z-Way development by creating an account on GitHub.

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XMLs & jsons without vera
P

Nearly there with the migration ..

Is it ok to use older device files or do they get updated from time to time?

Now that a fresh openLuup is up and running and connected to Zway where's the best place to source device files without vera? I probably have them on another openLuup install but not 100% which ones to copy over.

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Error after device delete
PerHP

One of my wall plugs died yesterday, so i had to delete it without exclusion. When I did this, the openluup device switched to this:
7d1a5d39-cfdd-4c25-b2a2-79311736615f-image.png

And some .js issues arrived at the bottom of the screen:
1935b845-ea64-4576-8d40-04489ae10fb8-image.png

What to do?

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Device setup - organization strategy
PerHP

I've finally gotten the stuff to work together. Now - before I migrate all the vera devices, how do i use this?

How does the variables NameDevices and CloneRooms work? (is there a manual or description of the plugin?)
CloneRooms seems obvious, but is that the best way to go when I have more bridges?

Set up rooms and names in Z-way? No rooms in z-way, and distribute them in openluup?
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Changing device type for wall controller
A

I have an old Z-wave.me wall controller that I still use for turning the espresso machine on and off. The controller controls an Aeotec Micro Switch that for the moment is still on my Vera.

The wall controller has always been a bit tricky to work with on Vera. On my old UI5 VeraLite I managed to get it associated to the switch.
On the UI7 Vera I never got that to work, instead I could use it as a trigger in Reactor to detect when sl_SceneActivated was 1 or 0.

I have moved the wall controller to Z-way and there it is included as it should.
a30b06dd-1f3c-4ca6-9966-b0a6f183de04-image.png Compared to when it was connected to the Vera it has proper on/off buttons so that it can be controlled from the Z-way GUI.

The command classes are the following:
68a54e6b-b240-40b2-95bb-9696bf7789cf-image.png In OpenLuup it still shows up as it did in the Vera, i.e. only showing battery.
985acfb7-6af9-4cf0-a426-79d4358baf6e-image.png Is it possible to change device type so that it get the right properties in OpenLuup?

At the moment it does not have any useful properties except for battery level. It e.g. lacks the sl_SceneActivated variable.

Another step would then be to move the Aeotec switch to Z-way and to then associate the wall controller to the switch in Z-way. It seems as if this can be done in the ExpertUI.

//ArcherS

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Recreate Zway device in Openluup
R

If a zway device have been manually deleted in openluup, What would be the right way to recreate it, or re-sync with the z-way-server?

Zway Bridge
Changing Device type from dimmer to Shutter
R

Just finished migrating to Zway, Although there are some devices that are being detected as a dimmer when in fact are Shutters.

What would be the best route to properly change how this devices are being detected by the ZWay plugin on openluup?

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Zway Bridge
Child device undo failure
rafale77R

Hi AK,

I must be missing something but I am having now some devices fail on the bridge due to them running out of battery. Upon battery replacement, they function properly on z-way-server but the failure remains over the bridge. The failure shows up on the parent device and it says that a specific command class has failed. Looking at the return API json, it should not return any command class level failure however so I am not sure where the bridge gets its failed state from...

edit: Nevermind, I figured it out. It is a gap in data alignment between the different z-way APIs. The zwave and JS API got the update that the device recovered but not the smarthome API. Pausing and restarting the zwave app on z-way fixed it.

Zway Bridge
All Z-way devices "disabled" attribute is set to 1
K

I noticed the change when I switched from the RaZberry to UZB (During the switch all devices moved to the Room 101 briefly, maybe that had something to do with it). Any idea why this would have happened? Can I easily change them all back to enabled? Also, what exactly does this attribute do? I only noticed because none of my z-wave devices were showing up in Imperihome and when I set the "disabled" attribute back to 0, the device shows up. Thanks.

Zway Bridge
Z-Way electric meter devices not in openLuup
I

So I started experimenting by moving some of my wallplugs and power switch zwave devices over from VeraPlus to Z-Way.

In Z-Way this results in different elements for switching, Watts and kWh. Some even have Volts which I never saw on Vera.

But using the Z-Way plugin in openLuup only the Switch element is visible and all other elements of the zwave node are not.

I don't really know to much about Z-Way or the plugin, but am trying to learn on the run.

Maybe someone can give me some pointers what and where to look for to solve this?

Zway Bridge
z-way with home assistant
S

Just wanted to point out and start the topic of the following:

We are working on a project that will allow to use Z-Way library as the core of Z-Wave in Home Assistant. First releases will be around June/July I believe

Additionally there are ways to support Z-Way from HAss via HTTP requests. This is a community project and we have no deep knowledge about it.

С уважением,
Полторак Сергей
Z-Wave.Me

Apr 19, 2020 Official Z-way integration request Official Z-way integration request

Why would that make you reluctant? It doesn’t seem to be any different from any other local startup supporting funds in other countries.

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    CatmanV2
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    #25

    Yeah, I only mentioned Pi because I like them and I don't have anything else that I want to add it to.
    Couple of Qs
    3) This is the machine running Openluup?
    4) Will this change the device IDs? I ask because I intend to have no scenes, and if all the IDs change (again) then it's a chunk of work to fix all the reactors.

    Thanks (again)

    C

    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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      rafale77
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      #26
      1. Yes I run z-way-server and openluup along with all my echo and siri bridges on the same machine which is a ubuntu VM but it could be really anything from rPi to a mini PC.
      2. Yes it will and it the part which requires the most work as I said. I have about 150 scenes with a vast majority of them being device triggered. I had to changed everything to variable watch and all their IDs along with that. Likewise the actions from the scenes all had to be changed. I would say 90% of my time spent on the migration was on this part. The rest was reasonably straightforward.
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        If I want to try the zwave device backup to uzb restore on zway method can I “turn off” the zwave radio on zway and leave my vera in “production” while I reprogram openluup with the new zway bridged devices?

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          CatmanV2
          replied to rafale77 on last edited by
          #28

          @rafale77 said in Why Migrate to Z-way from vera and how?:

          Yes it will and it the part which requires the most work as I said. I have about 150 scenes with a vast majority of them being device triggered. I had to changed everything to variable watch and all their IDs along with that. Likewise the actions from the scenes all had to be changed. I would say 90% of my time spent on the migration was on this part. The rest was reasonably straightforward.

          Hmm so the device IDs will be different for a reactor on on Openluup, then different again when I move them to the UZB.

          Is it possible to move one device at a time without unpairing from Vera / pairing with UZB?

          C

          The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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            rafale77
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            You can make the reactor device IDs the same by manipulating them the same way you would on a vera (it is an attribute). What will be different will be the device IDs of the zwave devices.... When moving to openLuup, the zwave devices will be come bridged and will have an added “prefix” of 10 sending them in the 10000+ range.

            You could alternatively try to add z-way as a secondary controller first which would make the same zwave device show up twice on openLuup: one through the vera path and the other through the z-way path.

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              #30

              Yeah sorry, I meant the zwave devices, not the Reactor device ids.

              Not possible to move one device at a time?

              C

              The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                rafale77
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                Not without breaking your network... remember? it's a mesh. So they all talk to one another. The whole point of this migration is so that you don't need to do it one device at a time. Trust me it is much better to move the whole thing all at once but you do need to reserve the time to change all the IDs in the scenes.

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                  CatmanV2
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                  #32

                  That's a lot of time is my point 😞 I don't mind a lot of time per se, but a lot of time without HA working (If I'm reading it right every instance of every device in every Reactor / scene will need updating)

                  Prophead's experience seems that it's even more a lot of time getting Z-way running due to the libcurl 3/4 issue?

                  Personally I'd probably compile from source, but.....

                  C

                  The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                    #33

                    @rafale77 said in Why Migrate to Z-way from vera and how?:

                    1. Install openLuup somewhere on any machine (again does not need to be a rPi but it can be) with verabridge.
                    2. Move all your plugins and scenes to openLuup with using the helper features of the bridge. See how you like this. It should stabilize the vera to some degree. (I ran like this for a couple of years)
                      Then if reliability is still an issue,
                    3. get a uzb plug it to a machine, can be the same one, and install z-way-server.
                    4. plug the uzb on the vera to migrate your zwave network on the uzb and then plug it back to where the z-way-server is
                    5. Install the z-way bridge on openluup and connect them together. Migrate scenes.

                    OK I think I'm up to step 2.

                    But I have no plug ins.
                    I have no scenes either but that's deliberate. All my automation is now done on Reactor (the 4 house scenes are there, of course)

                    So what do I need to do to further to stabilize the Vera?

                    Cheers

                    C

                    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                      rafale77
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                      #34

                      Move reactors to openLuup along with all the plugins.

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                        CatmanV2
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                        #35

                        Move Reactors =
                        Install Reactor from AltMarketplace
                        Backup Reactors on Vera
                        Restore Reactors on OpenLuup
                        Edit Reactors on OpenLuup with regard to device numbers
                        Delete Reactors on Vera
                        ?

                        Move plugins = Just install them all from Alt Market place?

                        Cheers!

                        C

                        The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                          This all sounds about right for those which are on the alt market place. Technically though the files should have been transferred over from from the download verafiles action so all you have to do is to create the devices to get the plugins appear and then copy over the parameters for these plugins from the vera.

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                            Your point 5 here:

                            <quote>
                            Go into the vera UI and go under Settings/Z-wave settings/Options Tab and change the port field to "/dev/ttyACM0" and let the luup engine reload. This will wipe out all the zwave devices from your vera configuration (Another wonderful feature of the luup reload...) and switch you to the uzb as your zwave chip.
                            </quote>

                            Can I assume the NVM of the Vera dongle is not impacted? And if you change the port back everything will be restored? Just wondering what my roll back / fix forward options might be.

                            Cheers

                            C

                            The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                              The vera dongle is indeed unimpacted. If is just swaps what dongle the luup engine's communicates with.

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                                CatmanV2
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                                @rafale77 said in Why Migrate to Z-way from vera and how?:

                                The vera dongle is indeed unimpacted. If is just swaps what dongle the luup engine's communicates with.

                                OK, that's cool. Need to try and find some time this week. Been too busy this weekend working on the new kwoon for those into that kind of thing 😉

                                C

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                                  RHCPNG
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                                  Hi guys,

                                  Do I need a Zway license for this?

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                                    rafale77
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                                    To use z-way-server for anything more than upgrading the uzb firmware, yes.
                                    If you use a razberry instead, no but you can't transfer over the vera's zwave network with a razberry alone.
                                    What you can do, which is what @DesT has done if I remember correctly, is to follow this procedure to transfer your vera network to a uzb, back it up on z-way and restore it on a razberry.

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                                      replied to rafale77 on last edited by
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                                      @rafale77 I'm thinking about an uzb. So in combination with openluup, I still need a license?

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                                        yes because you will need to use the z-way software to be the zwave network manager layer.

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                                          @rafale77 ok, thnx. For adding devices and such you mean?

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