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First I want to say thank you to this group. You have given me ideas and help along the HA path for a long time.
I'm an old Vera user and planning to decouple from MIOS cloud now or after 7.32 but I'm stuck at how to push messages out.
I'm using Reactor and Scenes for Vera native messaging. What's a good solution going forward?Also want to mention that after reading the Decoupling document I have built a NTP GPS server on a Pi3B and enjoyed learning more about Linux along the way. I have it stabilized after learning 100 different ways.
Thanks
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Can someone point me in the proper direction of doing a Vera (Secure) backup?
Specifically, I'm worried about a controller failure and unable to source a new one where I could just use the included backup facilities.
I'm considering staying on Vera a little longer to see what happens with Ezlo (especially around easy migrations).
I know I can manually run backups from the UI but wondering if there's a more "standard" method that would allow me to move to another platform if required. This would require me to pull my (important definition, I feel. This shouldn't be a secret) encryption key off of the Vera as part of the backup - so any pointers there would be helpful as well.
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Does anyone have a quick way to delete multiple devices without having to do a reload between each delete? I have about 20 child devices to get rid of and it will take forever to delete them all one by one with a reload in between.
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This is just a note for anyone who wants to delete the duplicate child devices the Vera likes to create. In my pervious experience when I would delete a child device (duplicate or not) the parent device would get deleted too.
What I now have discovered is that if you go into AltUI and clear the value set in the attribute for the child device called id_parent you can simply delete the child device without the parent device getting deleted.
I am unsure if the new FW recently added the ability to delete child devices like this, but now I went from 30+ child devices down to the expected 4. Hope this helps someone out!
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Anyone installed the new beta f/w on their Vera unit and liking it?
Read https://community.ezlo.com/t/7-32-vera-firmware-beta-release/217060
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Hello @therealdb , I have updated to the new vera FW and cant seem to get your plugin working. I keep seeing "install jq package" on the device itself and when I reset everything and got a new cookie file I see this in the device's Latest Response variable: ERROR: missing argument for -d /storage/alexa/alexa_remote_control_plain.sh [-d .
I have used the code to reset the cookies, added a new cookie file, added the OTP, updated the plugin (did this first actually) and still cant get it working.
Testing some TTS commands I see this response in my logs:
"Say", {Text="Hello from Vera Alexa", Volume=50, GroupZones="Bar Echo", Repeat = 3}, 632)) <0x6bc41520> 08 03/14/21 10:57:57.179 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::HandleActionRequest device: 632 service: urn:bochicchio-com:serviceId:VeraAlexa1 action: Say <0x6bc41520> 08 03/14/21 10:57:57.179 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::HandleActionRequest argument Repeat=3 <0x6bc41520> 08 03/14/21 10:57:57.179 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::HandleActionRequest argument Text=Hello from Vera Alexa <0x6bc41520> 08 03/14/21 10:57:57.180 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::HandleActionRequest argument GroupZones=Bar Echo <0x6bc41520> 08 03/14/21 10:57:57.180 JobHandler_LuaUPnP::HandleActionRequest argument Volume=50 <0x6bc41520> 50 03/14/21 10:57:57.180 luup_log:632: VeraAlexa[0.9.0@632]:addToQueue: added to queue for 632 <0x6bc41520> 01 03/14/21 10:57:57.181 LuaInterface::CallFunction_Job device 632 function SVeraAlexa1_VeraAlexa1_Say_run failed /etc/cmh-ludl/L_VeraAlexa1.lua:89: bad argument #3 to 'format' (string expected, got nil) <0x6bc41520> 50 03/14/21 10:57:57.181 luup_log:0: ALTUI: Evaluation of lua code returned: nil <0x6bc41520> ``` -
I use the ROKU plug-in from Vera's app repository. It seems to constantly add Log entries every 5 seconds or so, to the point where my LuaPnP log is just littered with page-long reports about the status of my Roku TV. My Log is 75% "Roku" status!
The only pertinent setting I see under Advanced > Variables is "PollingEnabled" (default: true) which when set to false does indeed stop the logging altogether. But I fear this also completely stops the plug-in from checking TV status which otherwise would update variables that happen to trigger some of my MSR routines. (More testing needed here...)
But do you guys know of any way -- up to and including editing the D_, I_ or L_ files of the plug-in itself! -- to simply stop or slow a running plug-in from writing to the Log??
Also, is there any harm (other than mild annoyance when I have to review the Log for unrelated things) in allowing Vera to write so vigorously to the Log all day long??
THANKS!
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I regret my decision to click "Configure Node Right Now" on an otherwise working device (a Fibaro RGBW LED dimmer control) while it was "Off". Doing so seems to have caused all of its "children" devices (RGB(R), RGB(G), etc.) to disappear from my Vera UI, and I have no idea how to get them back.
Meanwhile, the parent device keeps reporting "Device Failed to Configure" (in red)** and cannot be controlled by Vera any longer. Nor do the attached LEDs go "On" in response to other Scenes.
How do I undo this innocent mistake? Restarting the Luup engine and hard-refreshing my browser/UI has not helped.
THANKS!
P.S. What does that button DO!??!
EDIT: Now the affected device reports (in light blue) "Please wait! Getting the manufacturer...", then "Setting special association", etc. Then 8 unnamed devices magically appeared in the affected room...
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Seems as though during my testing of the Vera Mobile app, I set up a couple of Scenes (now deleted) which never worked anyway.
But MSR's "Entities" tab still shows the presence of two waypoints (with Vera ID's like vera>geo_1625761_1) which I have no clue how to delete.
I've searched high and low in the app (Settings, Users, etc.), and can't think of anywhere in the Vera Plus UI to look for these - not even sure what to call 'em - to Delete them.
Any clues?
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I just peeked into my Vera Plus > User and Account Info > Other Users and much to my astonishment (and horror?) found a little surprise waiting for me, an account called "LinuxTest".
Seems it magically has the highest possible authority ("Account Administrator") within my Vera Plus, along with a contact email of linuxtest@mailinator.com
Does this appear on anyone else's 7.32 (beta firmware) Vera unit?
(In case it matters... no, I've never requested or authorized Customer Support on this unit, at least not in the past 10 years.)
Hmm. - Libra
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I have a VeraPlus and would like to purchase a second z-wave controler. Is it possible to build a second z-wave network next to an existing z-wave network? Slowly I want to move devices form Vera to the new z-wave network. Is it more advisable to install the second z-wave controller as a slave controler?
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Updated to 7.32 beta and it made all my Zooz switches act up, finally got everything back to normal except one device. Its a Zooz zen21 switch and prior to updating it had an associations group set on it (was trying to associate two switches, didn't work) and after the update I tried removing the associations but the switch is failing at purging associations.
Before I repair the switch does anyone know of a way to either force an associations purge or get rid of the error?
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Before I give up completely, and lose my entire mind, can someone please tell me I'm following the correct steps to get the LED of my NodOn Soft Remote configured through Vera?
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Dusted off my mothballed Vera 1 unit, which I thought was broken -- that's why I bought a Vera Plus a few years ago -- and she's evidently working perfectly.
Haven't attempted any Z-Wave inclusions yet (though the dongle, also surprisingly, appears functional).
ANY REQUESTS? Want any files copied, or for me to perform any experiments using Multi-System Reactor on the Vera 1?
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I have a Sensative strip that is in Vera twice. Each one has a different Device number and ID. Have tried to delete one and it will not go away. How can I remove one without loosing the other?
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So, after more than 10 years and 4 Vera's, my vera forum account is suspended.
I think the monkey of the company, called melih is not man enough te have any critic. In the topic about the "great to come app" I responded to the topic (not off topic!) that a subscription can also be seen (financially) as buying a box, run it for 2 years and come to market with a better one (in better wordings).
That means that if you as a company hast a box of 50USD cost, sell it at 250USD would give him a monthly subscription of 200/24=8.33 USD... Users that would last 5 years would pay a monthly of 3.33USD.But... the monkey on the rock has bolded his fists and said: ban him! He just can't take any criticism.
To be honest! I am not even sad! It was a very rough journey with Vera. The journey stopped when Ezlo and the monkey took over the name.
After that it quickly went downhill...
Goodluck all! (except the monkey).
Edit:
Aug 16, 2020 MiOS Application - early Beta enrollment MiOS Application - early Beta enrollment
The topic:
are you serious? would I become a cost? that is, customers who periodically replace the control unit and are happy with the service praise the Vera system and therefore also free advertising but, the new “company” decides to charge less to bind the customer with a subscription … But the genius...
The post:
The point you are missing is:If the hardware would “cost” around 50USD, and you sold it for 250USD, an average life span of 5 years would mean 200/(5×12)=3.33USD per month. Thats how Vera used to do it.
Then release a faster/better “beast” every 2 years gives you 200/(2×12)=8.33USD per month. That’s how vera used to do it.
And that’s how I did it for around 8 years and 4 veras with them untill you bought the company.
This is just a matter of how you look at it and explain it.
I dont frikking care how you do the maths, I only liked a working product and a close user community (like it was).
Now all I see on this forum is a lot of “we are going to” and “we are working on”, “keep them coming guys”. But the reason for ever considering to buy a new vera every 2 years is gone…
No clear migration path, no clear compatibility path and no clear integration path…
That’s why I started to look for alternatives…
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So ... I am trying to do the following:
Current setup:
Vera Plus (1.7.4955) Zwave only -> HASSIO VM (full control via Vera Integration)Future Target:
HASSIO VM (leveraging zwave.me UZB1 dongle via USB)I have done the following so far:
Updated UZB1 dongle (via RPi SmartHome) to latest 5.39 FirmwareI followed the following steps to try and migrate my existing Z-Wave NW (currently on Vera) onto the UZB1 dongle following the steps listed here:
Problem:
Steps 1-3: went fine (although the dumps are labeled as dongle.6.1.dump.x)
Step 4: went fine and the UZB1 was recognized as it should be (per dmesg)
Step 5: updating the port to /dev/ttyACM0 went fine, although I didn't see any indication of luup reload (or a save button for that matter when updating the port mapping)
Step 6: I did the touch for dongle.restore, but wasn't sure where to trigger a luup reload (I assumed it was Z-Wave Settings > Advanced > Reload Engine). I believe I got an error message when trying to do that step
Step 7: verify dongle.restore.go I don't recall being in the directions when I was going the test, but I rebooted
Post Reboot: None of my previous z-wave devices were listed. I also checked dmesg via ssh and noticed the following items:
[ 4.328000] Unsupported Device! [ 4.328000] Vendor=658 ProdID=200 [ 4.328000] Manufacturer= Product=I saw that item a couple times which almost seems like Vera is blocking the UZB1 or at least complaining about it.
I ended up switching the Z-Wave back to the embedded controller, and restoring configuration from backup.
Any suggestions what I did wrong??
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Anyone have a way of killing this? Delete plugin? Install files manually? Desperate to get set up on the rpi.
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Current Hardware: Vera Plus, HA in Synology Docker
Firmware: v.7.0.31
Available SW / HW: Multiple RPi's, Z-Way UZB w/lic, Z-Way Razberry board
ZWave Devices: 30-ish early gen GE/Jasco light switchesIssue: I've gotten myself into a spot that I'm not quite sure how to safely get out of, and I'm hoping someone on this forum can help me. I would ultimately like to get to a point where I'm using Home Assistant in Docker on my Synology as my UI for turning on/off lights, but I've read the "Pyramid" post and am open to other options. I can currently ssh to my Vera Plus, but cannot access the web UI (get a 403).
How I Got Here:
Back in Feb'19, I followed @rafale77's instructions to take my Vera off the grid. At the time, it looks like I was running version 7.0.26. This worked great.
I installed HA in Docker w/socat on my Synology NAS, and things were running perfectly for a long time, but I was forced to upgrade HA in tandem with an upgrade to the iOS app. So, I chose to use a Docker build that already had socat built in.
Then, I saw that there was a new version of firmware for Vera, and decided to upgrade to Firmware v.7.0.31 around Apr'20. This was a mistake in a big way, and I sought help on the new version of the Vera forums, which eventually led me here. I also re-ran @rafale77's mod files on the newer firmware version, and I think I shot myself in the foot there. I knew it was gamble, and take full responsibility. I've learned a lot and have benefitted greatly from his work.
I tried to run the Nuke Vera script, as that sounded exactly what I needed my Vera to do - take commands from HA and nothing else. This seems to be working, but I'm unable to control my network with HA.
Additional things I've done / tried / worry about:
Validated that HA is sending and receiving responses via socat from the Vera in the HA openzwave logs. I see logs that seem to indicate that a message is sent, and a message comes back from the Vera, but lights don't turn on/off. I've clicked the Heal Network, Test, Network, and Soft Reset buttons in the HA UI too.
I purchased a razberry. Then, I ordered a UZB, after seeing this post about migrating, assuming that it was best to try to follow that guide verbatim and not have to exclude / include a bunch of devices. I'm leaning towards completely divorcing myself from Vera.
I'm not 100% sure I have a valid backup of my zwave config. There are no dongle.dump files in /etc/cmh whch may make sense, as I was using after an external drive w/extroot. I do have some in ./mnt/sda2/etc/cmh/. It looks like I've got extra, actually, as it looks like I probably made backup copies some where along the way.
I shutdown the Vera and removed the extroot drive, reversed all of the changes Nuke-Vera made to the init.d start up files, and rebooted. I did this because the migration guide mentions to set the path of the z-way UZB in the UI settings, and I couldn't find how do this over ssh. I also don't know how to backup the zwave config from the CLI and was going to do this via the UI. As mentioned previously, I'm getting a 403 "Access Denied" message. Looking at logs and the config for lighthttpd, I think it is trying to follow some symbolic links that no longer exist, but I'm hoping I can get out of the mess I've made without troubleshooting and solving the HTTPD issues. I think I just need to know how to follow the steps to clone the Vera to the UZB via the CLI?
I found a command online method that allows me to view the zwave keys with hexdump. The keys on the device are different than the keys in on the drive that i was using for extroot, and that concerns me a bit.
If you've made this far, thanks for your time! Does anyone know the best way for me to get myself out of the mess I've got myself into?
All the best,
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Dear Experts!
In January 2020, I decided to get involved in automation as a complete beginner.
I purchased a Vera Plus device controller.I built the network gradually, at the cost of overcoming no small problems .....
Since I am a beginner I have had a lot of problems.For example: I had 6 multisensors that sometimes got stuck with motion detection (lights stayed on) and also created ghost devices.
I knocked everything out of the system, the system stabilized a lot after that. (many red lines disappeared from luaupnp ....)Over time and with the help of the experts (Eg: AKbooer was a great help to me in netatmo which I thank again) I managed to solve most of the errors.
I only use a reactor to control the logic and execution.
The logical composition of my reactor is not very complicated in my opinion.My DSC alarm (with plugin) controls the house modes, cameras, each room has a separate reactor sensor (18 sensors in total) which control the automatic lighting and shutters.
I tried to improve the conditions and scenes in the reactor to perfection. (don't have executions, delays and reservations at the same time, I record the states with the "time from reactor" group state, just like the motion and opening detections from another sensor.
The situation is that the system does not always work reliably.
I experience Lua recharges at completely unpredictable intervals, about 1-3 per day
times.
Because of this, unfortunately my scenes slip, (or don't happen)
For simple things (tablet charging in) there is usually no problem.However, if I am not at home for several hours and return home, the alarms will turn off, and the luup recharge(90%).
If you approach the afternoon when more times are set in the time reactor then recharging will still occur but not always.For the past 10 months, I feel tired of the constant error search and still not good. I'm starting to doubt Vera's abilities.
Therefore, I would have the following questions:
Are the conditions set in the reactor loaded on the vera without action?
Can the Vera be stable and well-functioning without an unexpected lua reload?
If so, what do I need to add? (I'm a simple user, not a programmer, I don't know lua and linux programming languages and I don't want to learn because of vera)
I don’t want to deal with this too much anymore, so I still spent more on it than I deserve.Is there another controller that works safely and well on the z-wave platform?
In what direction should I move away from the vera, which will not disappoint me?
Have you heard of a controller called comfortclick? (I was now offered this instead of vera)
Thank you in advance for your help.
Krisztian
Nuke Vera Script
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Script to disable all the mios/vera proprietary program and broadcast its zwave and zigbee radio serial ports in your network so it can be picked up by another controller... For example z-way.
rafale77/Nuke-Vera
Script to neuter the vera and broadcast its zwave and zigbee serial ports - rafale77/Nuke-Vera
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Is this just as good as buying a zigbee stick ?
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Looking at the code and depending on the version of Ser2net that’s installed, adding e.g. max-connections=3 to the end of the Ser2net command would allow multiple connections ?
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So... I have been using this for 10 months now and yeah it is better than a zigbee stick because you bypass the usb interface. It is a direct serial uart so I got to fool around with the firmware without ever bricking it due incorrect bootloader etc which usb requires.
You know there are only a handful of zigbee chipsets so... this is the silabs one and is the most generically compatible. The conbee would be the only zigbee stick I would consider with the TI one being last though it is cheap.
@parkerc... yup I am using it with two connections. I have a uzb plugged into my vera at the center of my house sending both the zigbee and the uzb serial ports down to my z-way/openluup/homeassistant VMs in my server down in my garage. You can practically make it send any number of serial port you want. -
Hey @rafale77
I’m going to have a play with this later, as a comprehensive usb/serial server (https://smarthome.community/topic/209/home-automation-serial-server-raspberry-pi ) is something I’ve been tinkering with for years ! (https://community.getvera.com/t/building-a-ser2net-serial-to-ip-server/173673) - wow has it really been that long .. 2012 !!!
Once announced and eventually added to Vera, Zigbee has been a capability that I’ve been keen to explore, but due to it’s lack of consistency (compared to z-wave) I’ve not invested much time.
Although; it is on my HA to-do list, - out of my league, but by opening up the zigbee on Vera, is there the potential to extend its usage with (https://github.com/koenkk/zigbee-herdsman ) and (https://github.com/koenkk/zigbee2mqtt) ?
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Have not looked at these project in quite some time but if my memory serves me well, they support only the TI chipset stacks so no they are not compatible with the chip on the vera. The stack on the vera works with the bellows-zigpy project: https://github.com/zigpy/bellows, EZSP stack, which was the base of the initial Home assistant zigbee support.
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@rafale77. I want to neuter my Vera Plus and socat the zwave, but keep the client wifi connectivity so I can place the Vera more centrally. I modified the nuke vera script to not do "wifi down". This seemed to work for a while, my ra0 interface had an IP, and I was able to reboot the Vera and it still worked. After a couple days the Vera dropped off the wifi, even the wired interface wouldn't link up. I did a factory reset and that got the wired interface working again.
I'm not sure how to configure the wireless interface. Using iwconfig to try and configure ra0 w/ the wifi ssid gave me "SET failed on device ra0 ; Operation not supported." Any ideas on what I might need to do to get the client wifi working?
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Interesting. Not sure why none of the interface would work after a few days. You may want to look for system logs. This should not happen unless something on your network kicked the vera out. I am thinking of a DHCP lease renewal failing for example.
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So, I nuked my Vera..
(Just the bakup vera though)Can you extrapolate your guide to the point where i see them in z-way?
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Hmm it won't work on z-way... this is more for other platforms for example homeseer or home assistant. z-way unfortunately requires a key which requires the hardware to be specific (uzb or razberry).
The compatibility is only one way. You can use any usb zwave stick, including the uzb on homeseer, domotcz, homeassistant, vera etc... because they all use the same zwave serial API but z-way only works with their hardware.
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Aha, OK.
Anyway, i found the way to install socat at least (for anyone wondering about this later):
Using a Vera Edge as a network-attached zwave device (skipping the vera software)
I have a few Vera’s lying around and I wanted to migrate one to home assistant, and instead of going the tedious way of adding again all my zwave devices to a zwave stick, I decided to try and make a zwave-to-tcp device out of the controller, and connect home assistant to it. Data path: zwave...
So, this is not a way to get zigbee to Openluup instead of the vera bridge?
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Throwing out a thought; could it be possible to reinstall a VeraPlus with HASSio?
I'm really sick of the zigbee handling of the vera, so if HA can use the zigbee chip in the vera, that could be even more elegant than HASS on the main unit and Socat..
Found this thread: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/ha-on-openwrt/118125/16
It may be possible to do that on a nuked vera?
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..which links to this: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-install-ha-on-your-router/126937
I may have a go at this..
