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UZB/RaZberry Firmwares - Update
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After a major hassle got z-way running on my ubuntu 16 VM with a USB pasthough UZB1 stick including license and connected to Vera...

I see:

UZB/RaZberry Firmwares 005b8e52-251d-4fed-b3f9-13a7d579940d-image.png

I also see:
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But how do I update that?
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Z-Wave.me
Docker container for Z-Way
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Hey guys ... I've started creating a Docker container for Z-Way.

I was previously using the Razberry2 but found it a bit slow on my Raspberry Pi 3. I could upgrade to a Raspberry Pi 4 but since I already run a dedicated Linux server and many Docker containers I thought it might make more sense to run Z-Way on there.

GitHub: https://github.com/sofakng/docker-zway
DockerHub: https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/sofakng/zway

This container is based on other containers that are no longer updated: (ruimarinho/docker-z-way) and (EugenMayer/docker-image-zway)

I'd love to hear feedback and any improvements that might be needed.

One thing I want to add immediately is to separate the configuration files from the Docker volume but it looks like Z-Way has several user configuration files/directories?

$ZWAY_DIR/config/Configuration.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/Rules.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/maps $ZWAY_DIR/config/zddx $ZWAY_DIR/automation/user_syscommands $ZWAY_DIR/automation/storage $ZWAY_DIR/automation/userModules $ZWAY_DIR/htdocs/smarthome/user $ZWAY_DIR/config.xml
Z-Wave.me
Migration to Virtualisation
CatmanV2C

Not 100% sure this is the best place, but this seems to be the sticking point.

Background: My NotVera system has been working perfectly now for some years. USB Z wave stick in an old Intel NUC.
The NUC has a bare metal install of Debian buster, and on that we have:
Z-wave Smart Home
OpenLuup
AltUI
MSR
Mosquito server
Home Automation Bridge.
I also have a bare metal Raspian install of Home Assistant running on a Pi

Due to my Buffalo Linkstation doing some odd stuff (like suddenly disconnecting, while maintaining everything was fine) I bit the bullet and bought a Synology DS224+

Now, given the age of my NUC I'm thinking that I should probably start thinking about how to replace / safeguard it. Pretty happy that I can make an image of the existing disk and drop it onto a virtual machine in the Synology, or re-install / restore or do some other things (not decided what yet) but I get stuck on the USB dongle.

Can I connect that to a VM on the NAS, or do I need another solution?

TIA

C

Z-Wave.me
Razberry firmware upgrade from 5.04 to 5.27
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I have a Razberry v2 with firmware v5.04, and Bootloader v8aaa with CRC 35498 (I did manage to upgrade to this version using the "ZMESerialUpdater" tool ). I want to upgrade the firmware to v5.27, which Z-Wave.me Support say is the newest version that my hardware can handle without bricking it. Firmware v5.27 introduces the Analytics tab, according to Poltos, which is what I want.

I have been studying the firmware map (https://service.z-wave.me/expertui/uzb-stats/versions-graph.html?with_hidden) which I sort-of understand. I have also got the "ZMESerialUpdater" tool to do the update, and could use it if I knew which binaries to use.

My question is, what firmware update route do I use to get from v5.04 to v5.27? What exactly are the URLs of the binaries (as in "UPD_FIRMWARE_Razberry500_from_05_04_to_05_07.bin")?

Somewhat confused!

ScotsDon

Z-Wave.me
UZB Firmware update failed!
D

Hi all, I hope someone could drive me in the right direction.

I was setting up a new zware environment using a UZB stick I bought about 2 yeasr ago and never used.
This stick was using firmware 5.27 that sounded to me a bit old.
So I looked on the process of upgrading the device and I downloaded the ZMESerialUpdater, the I went on the z-wave.me site and look for the firmware and I found (on this awfull map) the firmware UPD_FIRMWARE_UZB_STATIC_2ch_ZME_05_1b_04000001_ZME_05_24_04000001.bin (that AFAIK should upgrade from version 5.27 to 5.36).
I run the update and it never finished....
8899ae1b-c9cc-488b-ba15-870bbf66c044-image.png After 2 hours waiting for nothing, I finally CTRL-C and removed and reinserted the USB stick that is not recognized anymore.

I really think I won a nice peace of plastic usb shaped, but in case someone has an idea, I would be pleased to read your coment.

Regards

Z-Wave.me
Z-Wave RF optimization
rafale77R

The expertUI of Z-way has a very interesting menu called analytics which I have not seen on any other controller.
My engineering curiosity and OCD tendency to want to optimize everything lead me to dig into it to see if I could get things working even better... even though nothing seem to be broken since my move from the UI firmware to z-way. So the background noise menu was of particular interest.

So here it is: This was my first shot of the starting block on the left side of this graph and you can see that at around 21:00 I did something to reduce the noise. My zwave.me uzb is connected to the vera through a usb extension cable and a usb hub but initially the vera and usb hub were sitting only a 6-7 inches (20cm) away from the uzb. Keep in mind the scale on both channels. What I did was to move the vera away from the uzb stick, to about 80cm but the big step was for me to use some metal leftover amazon gift card boxes I had from christmas and covered the usb hub with them. The step back up was me moving these macgyver shields around.

Screen Shot 2020-03-25 at 07.12.46.png

Next step is still goofing around with the shields to see if I could optimize further and while I initially made it worse, you can see that it got a little better later on. That USB hub is quite noisy.

Screen Shot 2020-03-25 at 13.41.30.png

After sometime, I just thought that the whole thing is just too sensitive any movement around that area could potentially cause problems. So I decided to remove the hub connected to the vera which really was just allowing to extroot the vera. Since I am no longer using the vera as a vera but only as a remote serial bridge, which doesn't write anything on its drive, I took it out. Again look closely at the scales. It did take the noise down another notch.

Screen Shot 2020-04-14 at 08.06.27.png

Now the stick is still sitting 14inch away from a UPS with a bunch of wall warts connected to it, powering a variety of devices like a hue 2 hub. I had the idea of replacing just the wall wart (AC-DC power supply) for the vera with a POE splitter. Since channel 2 is already hovering around the detection limit, I am only showing channel 1 here

Screen Shot 2020-04-15 at 19.03.27.png

This last step alone enable me to flip this other statistics menu:

Screen Shot 2020-04-24 at 07.36.36.png

It not only significantly decreased the CRC error rate but also made the foreign network impact greater that the CRC error bar negating the success on reception for the first time. When I took a zniffer to look into what these CRC error frames were, I discovered that they were all from my neighbor's network which is distant and have obviously poor signal strength. (Yes I can see his HomeId from the zniffer). The fact that I see less error means that my controller's range is greater. It is now able to recognize frames which are from my neighbor's instead of saying they are corrupted... Also The back off frames number decreased indicating less wasted/repeated frames on the network.

Z-Wave.me
Use Scenes (2x/ 3x click) from Fibaro Roller Shutter 2 in openluup with zway bridge
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I have installed my UZB1 stick on my RP4 and want to megrate my device form my Vera to z-way. Now I want to use my Roller shutter 2 in z-way.mev as a scene controller. This is activated by 2x / 3x clicks on the switch. This works perfectly with vera (verabridge) in openluup and reactor using variable LastSceneID and LastScenetime.

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Fibaro documentation:
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When using z-way.me and z-way bridge it works differently. In reactor I see the variable below. I don't know how to use it. Maybe someone else can help me.

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Z-Wave.me
z-way-server new release
rafale77R

Lagging a little here but I just upgraded my z-way-server version and couldn't find much information on their website or even forum.

Z-Way builds

What is interesting for the ubuntu/debian version is that it is now released as a .deb package making upgrades much easier. I just downloaded the package and ran:

dpkg -i z-way-*.deb

and nothing else. The previous versions required some manual work since it was just a bunch of files for us to overwrite our installations.

From the release note, there could be interesting things for some folks here. It is a pretty long list compared to the previous incremental release.

Z-Wave.me
Z-way backup strategy
A

For all systems backup is a vital part of the long-term usability.

I thought that I describe my set up with Z-way so far. Hopefully others can fill in with their backup thoughts as well. I am sure that there are much more streamlined ways of doing this and hope to learn from you all.

I run Z-way on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ with a daughter RaZberry card. In order to reduce the risk of getting corrupt SD cards I have it running off an SSD. So far this works very well. Setting it up was really easy just reading a standard Raspbian image onto the SSD. The only minor obstacle was that I had to test a few old 2.5" enclosures to find one that the Pi liked.
The Pi is then also powered via an UPS, hopefully this will avoid problems in the event of power outages.

In order to backup Z-way I have so far done manual backups from the regular Smarthome backup & restore function creating .zab files and from the Expert UI creating .zbk files. As far as I have understood the .zab files which are bigger contain more information than the .zbk files. The strategy so far has been to make backup files after each inclusion/exclusion. Also before updating Z-way. I have yet to test restoring from these files.

From Smarthome it is also possible to set up cloud backup. I have not yet set up this as I need to decide that it is safe enough to do so. On the other hand I had this set up on my two Veras.
It would have been nice to be able to schedule a local backup of Z-way instead of having to put them in the cloud, perhaps from OpenLuup via the Z-way bridge?

In addition to the built in backup function I try to do complete image copies of the SD cards on my Pi's with Win32DiskImager. When I moved to an SSD the image file grew to the size of the SSD since it is a raw copy including all the empty space. Image files of 160GB are not practical to handle so I found a good instruction on how to shrink the .img file with Gparted in Linux: https://steemit.com/raspberrypi/@wizzle/shrink-raspberry-pi-images-using-windows-virtualbox-running-raspberry-pi-desktop
By shrinking the .img file with Gparted it is now a more reasonable 4GB. These file are stored on my NAS for safekeeping. The strategy here so far is to make a new image file before updating Z-way and to use these in combination with more frequent Z-way backups.

I have tested restoring a Gparted shrinked .img file to the SSD when my Z-way for some strange reason became unreachable through the regular UI but remained reachable through the Expert UI. Always good to test the restore function and to see that it works. 🙂

The downside of the .img strategy is that I need to power-off the Pi for a while when making the backup. However if the Z-way backup files work then the complete .img backup need not be done so very often.

//ArcherS

Z-Wave.me
Z-way video tutorials
P

Have found these videos very informative as a zway(ve) novice ....

Z-Wave Network Diagnostics with Z-Way controller Z-Way webinar series: Z-Way Advanced Usage Z-Way webinar series: Introduction to Z-Way Home Automation
Z-Wave.me
Lifeline/TKB switches
P

Have a number of TKB plug switches (TZ68) that are not reporting to the controller. Believe they should be associated to Z-Way in Group 1 but am not able to get the devices to report groups in the interview/call for NIF process and so there are no associations possible. Thermosat is telling them to come on/off (hurrah!) but they don't report their on/off status in the gui.

In Associations tab: Can not configure associations: groups were not reported by the device. Do interview.

Z-Wave.me
Switched from RaZberry to UZB
K

Night and day difference for me. I think I was getting a lot of interference in my media closet. Devices were very slow to respond and sometimes not at all. Switched to UZB and used a USB extender to place it a good 5 ft from the location of my pi. Now things are fast and reliable.

Z-Wave.me
UZB and Zway server installation
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(Solved - presume pijuice hat was upset battery wasn't connected. Took out the plastic protector and UZB now showing. Next - upgrade UZB firmware)

Have I missed something? UZB not showing up in Zway ...

Downloaded Raspberry Pi Imager and used to set up os (Buster) on an 8gb SD

https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/

Then installed Zway from Terminal
wget -q -O - https://storage.z-wave.me/RaspbianInstall | sudo bash

Download Z-Way

Plugged in UZB

Changed port to /dev/ttyACM0 in menu/apps/ZWave network access in basic UI

Z-Wave.me
Rpi kit
P

This arrived today - hope it has enough juice for the uzb.

https://coolcomponents.co.uk/products/pijuice-hat-a-portable-power-platform-for-every-raspberry-pi

Shame the cases are sold out everywhere.

Z-Wave.me
z-way-server 3.1.0 release
rafale77R

Just upgraded to 3.1.0 and am happy to report that it has not impacted the z-way bridge for openLuup.

I am now seeing the SDK version for firmware 5.39

Screen Shot 2020-09-03 at 09.23.54.png

Z-Wave.me
UZB Long Range
R

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if the UZB supports Long Range already? I can't find which chip is in there.

Z-Wave.me
Getting status update from device
DesTD

Probably @rafale77 will jump on this question first 😉

I'm using the new model of GE/Jasco switch (they replaced the dead one I got) and the new model is having also S2 security and send instant status update BUT,

And probably @rafale77 will say yes, is it possible that interference can do that I'm missing some instant update status ?

Often, I'm having the wrong status in the zwave.me web interface...and even clicking the icon, the status didn't changed to right one.

I also try to do some "On/Off" using the web interface, and the device itself physically, toggle without a problem, but the web interface is still no correct.

Z-Wave.me
Add Indicator commandClass to zNode metric
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I'm trying to monitor the indicator command class of a 5 button scene controller in Z-Way so openluup can properly create and track it.

seems like Z-Way COMMAND_CLASS_INDICATOR (0x87 or 135) are not being monitored by the ZWave module as I couldn't find anything for this command class in (/z-way-server-path/automation/modules/ZWave/index.js)

When a Get or Set Indicator command class request is sent to the controller. ZSniffer picks up the request and response just fine although this packets are not being monitored by the zwave module
Example:

ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(NodeID,[ Command_Class, Instance, Value ]) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 0x87, 0x01, 0x01 ]) (Hexa) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 135, 1, 1 ]) (Decimal)

the answer looks like:

[2020-04-24 19:59:36.261] [I] [zway] Waiting for job reply: Indicator Get [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0B 00 04 00 02 03 87 03 01 B6 00 C2 ) [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] SENT ACK

I’d like to store the Indicator response “RECEIVED” correctly. I believe by modifying the index.js of the zwave module could do the trick and once the module start tracking the indicator command class values as a metric then openluup's z-way plugin would properly track any changes as well.

I'm wondering if anyone around here could share any thoughts or comments that could make it easier...

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Aeon Multisensor 6 issue
PerHP

Posting here, as the z-wave.me forum seems desolated..

I have two multisensor 6 sensors, and one of them is not sending motion sensor updates?

Looking at the configuration, they are both registered as battery sensors for som reason, even if they are USB powered. They respond quickly to parameter changes, except for parameter 100 and 110, that will not update.

Any clues? How do i convince the controller that they are USB powered?

Z-Wave.me
Move UZB from Windows 10 to RPi 3 (Buster)
D

First Post . . .

Good to "see" y'all here!

Last week, I purchased the Z-Wave.me UZB1 dongle and also purchased the Z-Way license.

Knowing in advance that the combination (Windows 10 and the Z-Way server) was lacking, I wanted to install anyway on a Windows 10 machine, and include a few spare z-wave devices to see how things worked. Pretty well, for the most part.

@rafale77 had written that the UZB stick works well in the RPi compared to the RaZberry card (which I also purchased but is still in it's packaging), I would like to plug this UZB1 into my Pi running openLuup/ALTUI (then hopefully installing the Z-Way plugin)

I'm not confident enough yet to plug the UZB into my Vera3 (UI5) and transfer my existing z-wave devices to the stick.

Without creating a new Buster image downloaded from Z-Way, could I possibly . . .

Plug the UZB1 into the Buster Pi3 From the terminal, run, wget -q -O - razberry.z-wave.me/install | sudo bash

then, if I can reach the :8083 port (as quoted by PoltoS) "go to Settings -> Apps -> Active -> ZWave and change /dev/ttyAMA0 to /dev/ttyACM0"

and expect that my UZB1 will now run on the Pi ?

If it is mostly that simple, would my license transfer?

Should I exclude the (3) z-wave devices I had running on the Windows 10 Z-Way server first?

If I'm oversimplifying, tell me to "shut up" and read some more! 😕

Thanks again,

DCMChrissy

Z-Wave.me

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    For those like me, using Debian. You can use the Ubuntu version.

    Just did the switch this morning from 3.0.0 Debian to 3.0.6 Ubuntu on a Debian VM!

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      Great that you can confirm my suspicion. I am not even sure why you would need two different builds unless they were meant for different platforms (I had this problem with arm between the 32 and 64bit versions)

      Almost 4 months now since my migration from vera and I can vouch now that the initial impact is sustainable, digital et permanent. I have had no device failing to actuate. No delayed scenes or automation. No rogue sensors failing to untrip... (I am a bit surprised by this too), no ghost sensor trips, no device suddenly becoming offline, barely ever need to use even Homewave anymore since I have no need for mobile app at all except for occasional status checks, heck I even barely ever have to look at ALTUI/openLuup. Everything z-wave finally working flawlessly and on top of this, I have very significantly decreased the frequency of battery charging/swapping. I think the average battery lifetime increased by 80 to 300% depending on the device. Even my leviton scene controllers which needed a monthly power cycle with the vera before FW 7.30 and a quarterly one after FW 7.30 have not yet failed. Night and day...

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        @DesT said in z-way-server - Debian:

        For those like me, using Debian. You can use the Ubuntu version.

        Just did the switch this morning from 3.0.0 Debian to 3.0.6 Ubuntu on a Debian VM!

        Hi

        Brand new Buster install here. I'm running into a library requirement for libcrypto.so.1.0.0 in both the Debian and Ubuntu versions.

        That seems to be deprecated part of open ssl
        Any idea how I can resolve it?

        Cheers

        C

        The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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          @CatmanV2 I'm still using Debian stretch on my VM as back in time, z-way only supported stretch for their debian version.

          I will need to dig a little bit but pretty sure we can install the old libcrypto from a backports repo for debian!

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            Yeah that's what I'm looking at. I can't be doing another install!

            C

            The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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              Well installed libcrypto. Now hit the curl4 issue. I thought this had been resolved? Not exactly brimming with joy at this point.

              So somehow I need earlier curl as well

              C

              The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                @CatmanV2 you can install libssl1.0.0 on Buster using multiarch-support package and then install the package from

                Debian -- Error

                I just test it on buster and I'm not having both libssl installed!

                What's the error about curl4 ?

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                  @CatmanV2

                  Have a look here
                  https://smarthome.community/topic/120/z-way-server-ubuntu-install

                  You should be able to do something with Debian 10

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                    I knew there was another link! Cheers

                    catman@openluup:/opt/z-way-server$ sudo LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./libs ./z-way-server
                    Z-Way version v3.0.0 from 2019-07-18 02:47:11 +0300 (build fabbd8c917ba3564c3cee86f3baca2e04da1892f)
                    Looking for modules in ./modules
                    Failed to load module modhttp.so: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by ./modules/modhttp.so) Module modenocean.so loaded Module modws.so loaded Failed to load module modnotification2ext.so: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4: version CURL_OPENSSL_3' not found (required by ./modules/modnotification2ext.so)
                    Failed to load module modinstaller.so: libarchive.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
                    Failed to load module modhomekit.so: libdns_sd.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
                    Module modcrypto.so loaded
                    Failed to load module modiconinstaller.so: libarchive.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
                    Failed to load module modskininstaller.so: libarchive.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
                    Module moddhs.so loaded
                    Failed to load module modzwave.so: libarchive.so.12: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
                    Module modzbw.so loaded
                    Module modsockets.so loaded
                    Using default configuration file config.xml
                    Error: 'debug-port' number is out of range. Skipping it.
                    cat: /etc/z-way/box_type: No such file or directory

                    Cheers

                    C

                    The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                      OK it's up!

                      Cheers

                      C

                      The Ex-Vera abuser know as CatmanV2.....

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                        @CatmanV2 How did you install Libcrypto?

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                          OK, so i got libcrypto in finally, heres the info i didn't find in the previous posts:
                          After installing Multiarch support (ref. @DesT):

                          sudo apt-get install multiarch-support
                          

                          download the file from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/amd64/libssl1.0.0/download

                          Then do this:

                          sudo apt install /*download directory*/libssl1.0.0_1.0.1t-1+deb8u12_amd64.deb
                          

                          Now on to the curl f**up.. 🙂

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