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UZB/RaZberry Firmwares - Update
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After a major hassle got z-way running on my ubuntu 16 VM with a USB pasthough UZB1 stick including license and connected to Vera...

I see:

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I also see:
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But how do I update that?
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Docker container for Z-Way
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Hey guys ... I've started creating a Docker container for Z-Way.

I was previously using the Razberry2 but found it a bit slow on my Raspberry Pi 3. I could upgrade to a Raspberry Pi 4 but since I already run a dedicated Linux server and many Docker containers I thought it might make more sense to run Z-Way on there.

GitHub: https://github.com/sofakng/docker-zway
DockerHub: https://hub.docker.com/repository/docker/sofakng/zway

This container is based on other containers that are no longer updated: (ruimarinho/docker-z-way) and (EugenMayer/docker-image-zway)

I'd love to hear feedback and any improvements that might be needed.

One thing I want to add immediately is to separate the configuration files from the Docker volume but it looks like Z-Way has several user configuration files/directories?

$ZWAY_DIR/config/Configuration.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/Rules.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/maps $ZWAY_DIR/config/zddx $ZWAY_DIR/automation/user_syscommands $ZWAY_DIR/automation/storage $ZWAY_DIR/automation/userModules $ZWAY_DIR/htdocs/smarthome/user $ZWAY_DIR/config.xml
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Migration to Virtualisation
CatmanV2C

Not 100% sure this is the best place, but this seems to be the sticking point.

Background: My NotVera system has been working perfectly now for some years. USB Z wave stick in an old Intel NUC.
The NUC has a bare metal install of Debian buster, and on that we have:
Z-wave Smart Home
OpenLuup
AltUI
MSR
Mosquito server
Home Automation Bridge.
I also have a bare metal Raspian install of Home Assistant running on a Pi

Due to my Buffalo Linkstation doing some odd stuff (like suddenly disconnecting, while maintaining everything was fine) I bit the bullet and bought a Synology DS224+

Now, given the age of my NUC I'm thinking that I should probably start thinking about how to replace / safeguard it. Pretty happy that I can make an image of the existing disk and drop it onto a virtual machine in the Synology, or re-install / restore or do some other things (not decided what yet) but I get stuck on the USB dongle.

Can I connect that to a VM on the NAS, or do I need another solution?

TIA

C

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Razberry firmware upgrade from 5.04 to 5.27
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I have a Razberry v2 with firmware v5.04, and Bootloader v8aaa with CRC 35498 (I did manage to upgrade to this version using the "ZMESerialUpdater" tool ). I want to upgrade the firmware to v5.27, which Z-Wave.me Support say is the newest version that my hardware can handle without bricking it. Firmware v5.27 introduces the Analytics tab, according to Poltos, which is what I want.

I have been studying the firmware map (https://service.z-wave.me/expertui/uzb-stats/versions-graph.html?with_hidden) which I sort-of understand. I have also got the "ZMESerialUpdater" tool to do the update, and could use it if I knew which binaries to use.

My question is, what firmware update route do I use to get from v5.04 to v5.27? What exactly are the URLs of the binaries (as in "UPD_FIRMWARE_Razberry500_from_05_04_to_05_07.bin")?

Somewhat confused!

ScotsDon

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UZB Firmware update failed!
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Hi all, I hope someone could drive me in the right direction.

I was setting up a new zware environment using a UZB stick I bought about 2 yeasr ago and never used.
This stick was using firmware 5.27 that sounded to me a bit old.
So I looked on the process of upgrading the device and I downloaded the ZMESerialUpdater, the I went on the z-wave.me site and look for the firmware and I found (on this awfull map) the firmware UPD_FIRMWARE_UZB_STATIC_2ch_ZME_05_1b_04000001_ZME_05_24_04000001.bin (that AFAIK should upgrade from version 5.27 to 5.36).
I run the update and it never finished....
8899ae1b-c9cc-488b-ba15-870bbf66c044-image.png After 2 hours waiting for nothing, I finally CTRL-C and removed and reinserted the USB stick that is not recognized anymore.

I really think I won a nice peace of plastic usb shaped, but in case someone has an idea, I would be pleased to read your coment.

Regards

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Z-Wave RF optimization
rafale77R

The expertUI of Z-way has a very interesting menu called analytics which I have not seen on any other controller.
My engineering curiosity and OCD tendency to want to optimize everything lead me to dig into it to see if I could get things working even better... even though nothing seem to be broken since my move from the UI firmware to z-way. So the background noise menu was of particular interest.

So here it is: This was my first shot of the starting block on the left side of this graph and you can see that at around 21:00 I did something to reduce the noise. My zwave.me uzb is connected to the vera through a usb extension cable and a usb hub but initially the vera and usb hub were sitting only a 6-7 inches (20cm) away from the uzb. Keep in mind the scale on both channels. What I did was to move the vera away from the uzb stick, to about 80cm but the big step was for me to use some metal leftover amazon gift card boxes I had from christmas and covered the usb hub with them. The step back up was me moving these macgyver shields around.

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Next step is still goofing around with the shields to see if I could optimize further and while I initially made it worse, you can see that it got a little better later on. That USB hub is quite noisy.

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After sometime, I just thought that the whole thing is just too sensitive any movement around that area could potentially cause problems. So I decided to remove the hub connected to the vera which really was just allowing to extroot the vera. Since I am no longer using the vera as a vera but only as a remote serial bridge, which doesn't write anything on its drive, I took it out. Again look closely at the scales. It did take the noise down another notch.

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Now the stick is still sitting 14inch away from a UPS with a bunch of wall warts connected to it, powering a variety of devices like a hue 2 hub. I had the idea of replacing just the wall wart (AC-DC power supply) for the vera with a POE splitter. Since channel 2 is already hovering around the detection limit, I am only showing channel 1 here

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This last step alone enable me to flip this other statistics menu:

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It not only significantly decreased the CRC error rate but also made the foreign network impact greater that the CRC error bar negating the success on reception for the first time. When I took a zniffer to look into what these CRC error frames were, I discovered that they were all from my neighbor's network which is distant and have obviously poor signal strength. (Yes I can see his HomeId from the zniffer). The fact that I see less error means that my controller's range is greater. It is now able to recognize frames which are from my neighbor's instead of saying they are corrupted... Also The back off frames number decreased indicating less wasted/repeated frames on the network.

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Use Scenes (2x/ 3x click) from Fibaro Roller Shutter 2 in openluup with zway bridge
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I have installed my UZB1 stick on my RP4 and want to megrate my device form my Vera to z-way. Now I want to use my Roller shutter 2 in z-way.mev as a scene controller. This is activated by 2x / 3x clicks on the switch. This works perfectly with vera (verabridge) in openluup and reactor using variable LastSceneID and LastScenetime.

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Fibaro documentation:
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When using z-way.me and z-way bridge it works differently. In reactor I see the variable below. I don't know how to use it. Maybe someone else can help me.

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z-way-server new release
rafale77R

Lagging a little here but I just upgraded my z-way-server version and couldn't find much information on their website or even forum.

Z-Way builds

What is interesting for the ubuntu/debian version is that it is now released as a .deb package making upgrades much easier. I just downloaded the package and ran:

dpkg -i z-way-*.deb

and nothing else. The previous versions required some manual work since it was just a bunch of files for us to overwrite our installations.

From the release note, there could be interesting things for some folks here. It is a pretty long list compared to the previous incremental release.

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Z-way backup strategy
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For all systems backup is a vital part of the long-term usability.

I thought that I describe my set up with Z-way so far. Hopefully others can fill in with their backup thoughts as well. I am sure that there are much more streamlined ways of doing this and hope to learn from you all.

I run Z-way on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ with a daughter RaZberry card. In order to reduce the risk of getting corrupt SD cards I have it running off an SSD. So far this works very well. Setting it up was really easy just reading a standard Raspbian image onto the SSD. The only minor obstacle was that I had to test a few old 2.5" enclosures to find one that the Pi liked.
The Pi is then also powered via an UPS, hopefully this will avoid problems in the event of power outages.

In order to backup Z-way I have so far done manual backups from the regular Smarthome backup & restore function creating .zab files and from the Expert UI creating .zbk files. As far as I have understood the .zab files which are bigger contain more information than the .zbk files. The strategy so far has been to make backup files after each inclusion/exclusion. Also before updating Z-way. I have yet to test restoring from these files.

From Smarthome it is also possible to set up cloud backup. I have not yet set up this as I need to decide that it is safe enough to do so. On the other hand I had this set up on my two Veras.
It would have been nice to be able to schedule a local backup of Z-way instead of having to put them in the cloud, perhaps from OpenLuup via the Z-way bridge?

In addition to the built in backup function I try to do complete image copies of the SD cards on my Pi's with Win32DiskImager. When I moved to an SSD the image file grew to the size of the SSD since it is a raw copy including all the empty space. Image files of 160GB are not practical to handle so I found a good instruction on how to shrink the .img file with Gparted in Linux: https://steemit.com/raspberrypi/@wizzle/shrink-raspberry-pi-images-using-windows-virtualbox-running-raspberry-pi-desktop
By shrinking the .img file with Gparted it is now a more reasonable 4GB. These file are stored on my NAS for safekeeping. The strategy here so far is to make a new image file before updating Z-way and to use these in combination with more frequent Z-way backups.

I have tested restoring a Gparted shrinked .img file to the SSD when my Z-way for some strange reason became unreachable through the regular UI but remained reachable through the Expert UI. Always good to test the restore function and to see that it works. 🙂

The downside of the .img strategy is that I need to power-off the Pi for a while when making the backup. However if the Z-way backup files work then the complete .img backup need not be done so very often.

//ArcherS

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Z-way video tutorials
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Have found these videos very informative as a zway(ve) novice ....

Z-Wave Network Diagnostics with Z-Way controller Z-Way webinar series: Z-Way Advanced Usage Z-Way webinar series: Introduction to Z-Way Home Automation
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Lifeline/TKB switches
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Have a number of TKB plug switches (TZ68) that are not reporting to the controller. Believe they should be associated to Z-Way in Group 1 but am not able to get the devices to report groups in the interview/call for NIF process and so there are no associations possible. Thermosat is telling them to come on/off (hurrah!) but they don't report their on/off status in the gui.

In Associations tab: Can not configure associations: groups were not reported by the device. Do interview.

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Switched from RaZberry to UZB
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Night and day difference for me. I think I was getting a lot of interference in my media closet. Devices were very slow to respond and sometimes not at all. Switched to UZB and used a USB extender to place it a good 5 ft from the location of my pi. Now things are fast and reliable.

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UZB and Zway server installation
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(Solved - presume pijuice hat was upset battery wasn't connected. Took out the plastic protector and UZB now showing. Next - upgrade UZB firmware)

Have I missed something? UZB not showing up in Zway ...

Downloaded Raspberry Pi Imager and used to set up os (Buster) on an 8gb SD

https://www.raspberrypi.org/software/

Then installed Zway from Terminal
wget -q -O - https://storage.z-wave.me/RaspbianInstall | sudo bash

Download Z-Way

Plugged in UZB

Changed port to /dev/ttyACM0 in menu/apps/ZWave network access in basic UI

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Rpi kit
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This arrived today - hope it has enough juice for the uzb.

https://coolcomponents.co.uk/products/pijuice-hat-a-portable-power-platform-for-every-raspberry-pi

Shame the cases are sold out everywhere.

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z-way-server 3.1.0 release
rafale77R

Just upgraded to 3.1.0 and am happy to report that it has not impacted the z-way bridge for openLuup.

I am now seeing the SDK version for firmware 5.39

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UZB Long Range
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Hi guys,

Does anyone know if the UZB supports Long Range already? I can't find which chip is in there.

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Getting status update from device
DesTD

Probably @rafale77 will jump on this question first 😉

I'm using the new model of GE/Jasco switch (they replaced the dead one I got) and the new model is having also S2 security and send instant status update BUT,

And probably @rafale77 will say yes, is it possible that interference can do that I'm missing some instant update status ?

Often, I'm having the wrong status in the zwave.me web interface...and even clicking the icon, the status didn't changed to right one.

I also try to do some "On/Off" using the web interface, and the device itself physically, toggle without a problem, but the web interface is still no correct.

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Add Indicator commandClass to zNode metric
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I'm trying to monitor the indicator command class of a 5 button scene controller in Z-Way so openluup can properly create and track it.

seems like Z-Way COMMAND_CLASS_INDICATOR (0x87 or 135) are not being monitored by the ZWave module as I couldn't find anything for this command class in (/z-way-server-path/automation/modules/ZWave/index.js)

When a Get or Set Indicator command class request is sent to the controller. ZSniffer picks up the request and response just fine although this packets are not being monitored by the zwave module
Example:

ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(NodeID,[ Command_Class, Instance, Value ]) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 0x87, 0x01, 0x01 ]) (Hexa) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 135, 1, 1 ]) (Decimal)

the answer looks like:

[2020-04-24 19:59:36.261] [I] [zway] Waiting for job reply: Indicator Get [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0B 00 04 00 02 03 87 03 01 B6 00 C2 ) [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] SENT ACK

I’d like to store the Indicator response “RECEIVED” correctly. I believe by modifying the index.js of the zwave module could do the trick and once the module start tracking the indicator command class values as a metric then openluup's z-way plugin would properly track any changes as well.

I'm wondering if anyone around here could share any thoughts or comments that could make it easier...

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Aeon Multisensor 6 issue
PerHP

Posting here, as the z-wave.me forum seems desolated..

I have two multisensor 6 sensors, and one of them is not sending motion sensor updates?

Looking at the configuration, they are both registered as battery sensors for som reason, even if they are USB powered. They respond quickly to parameter changes, except for parameter 100 and 110, that will not update.

Any clues? How do i convince the controller that they are USB powered?

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Move UZB from Windows 10 to RPi 3 (Buster)
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First Post . . .

Good to "see" y'all here!

Last week, I purchased the Z-Wave.me UZB1 dongle and also purchased the Z-Way license.

Knowing in advance that the combination (Windows 10 and the Z-Way server) was lacking, I wanted to install anyway on a Windows 10 machine, and include a few spare z-wave devices to see how things worked. Pretty well, for the most part.

@rafale77 had written that the UZB stick works well in the RPi compared to the RaZberry card (which I also purchased but is still in it's packaging), I would like to plug this UZB1 into my Pi running openLuup/ALTUI (then hopefully installing the Z-Way plugin)

I'm not confident enough yet to plug the UZB into my Vera3 (UI5) and transfer my existing z-wave devices to the stick.

Without creating a new Buster image downloaded from Z-Way, could I possibly . . .

Plug the UZB1 into the Buster Pi3 From the terminal, run, wget -q -O - razberry.z-wave.me/install | sudo bash

then, if I can reach the :8083 port (as quoted by PoltoS) "go to Settings -> Apps -> Active -> ZWave and change /dev/ttyAMA0 to /dev/ttyACM0"

and expect that my UZB1 will now run on the Pi ?

If it is mostly that simple, would my license transfer?

Should I exclude the (3) z-wave devices I had running on the Windows 10 Z-Way server first?

If I'm oversimplifying, tell me to "shut up" and read some more! 😕

Thanks again,

DCMChrissy

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    You got an error because you tried to exclude a device from z-way when the exclusion process needs to start from the master controller. You need to set the vera in exclusion mode and then go to z-way to "leave the network".
    The way you did it, the vera has not configured the z-way controller yet. It just included it. Because it is an unknown device, the vera buggy autoconfiguration will not work. You have to disable auto configuration on the vera to get rid of that error.
    All z-way does when you hit the leaving the network button, is to wakeup the z-way's zwave chip. It is expecting the master controller to be in exclude mode. If it isn't it will fail and this is by design.

    When adding a secondary z-wave controller, you have to think of it as just an additional device on the network. That's all it is. Everything you did using the vera remains the same. Nothing has changed. Configuring devices, including, excluding... all the same. You would be doing the same thing if you included another vera or any other controller or even any other device and needed to exclude it.

    Understanding how zwave works under the hood is not very complicated and essential but most of your problems are caused by vera's incomplete implementation of z-wave network control making things very obscure.
    If you had started from clean from z-way, you would have a much simpler system. If you want to run a dual controller, setup, you will need to learn how the z-wave topology and commands work at the most basic level. If you want a clean and simple z-wave system, you are better off getting rid of the vera and forget everything about it.

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      @rafale77 said in z-way-server ubuntu install:
      If you want a clean and simple z-wave system, you are better off getting rid of the vera and forget everything about it.

      I want! But there is a way between Vera <--> homeassitant and Z-way <--> homeassistant. Well 2 ways. 1 is migrating and 2, the most important one, there is nothing for z-way in home assistant, the MQTT plugin is buggy, installation is not straight forward etc...

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        @rafale77 said in z-way-server ubuntu install:

        You got an error because you tried to exclude a device from z-way when the exclusion process needs to start from the master controller. You need to set the vera in exclusion mode and then go to z-way to "leave the network".
        The way you did it, the vera has not configured the z-way controller yet. It just included it. Because it is an unknown device, the vera buggy autoconfiguration will not work. You have to disable auto configuration on the vera to get rid of that error.
        All z-way does when you hit the leaving the network button, is to wakeup the z-way's zwave chip. It is expecting the master controller to be in exclude mode. If it isn't it will fail and this is by design.

        I did not try to exclude anything in z-way. I did that excatly: set vera in exclusion and "leave network" in z-way, that works well! Only the other way around doesn't, the inclusion in the network (Include into network). In the screenshot you may see (Re-)inclusion started but that shows also when I did "include into network".

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          See, unparing works well:
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            I see. Sorry if I misunderstood.
            The only time I have seen this is when the vera is in its typical crash hang up mode. The vera has started to include a device and its command queue got into wait mode therefore never completing the inclusion. In that case, I would repeat it until it works. It is a vera problem, no different from all the problems including secure class devices the vera has been struggling with.
            Again, when you do it this way, z-way is no more than an additional device on the vera network and has all the same problems the vera has with secure class devices.

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              @rafale77 said in z-way-server ubuntu install:

              I see. Sorry if I misunderstood.
              The only time I have seen this is when the vera is in its typical crash hang up mode. The vera has started to include a device and its command queue got into wait mode therefore never completing the inclusion. In that case, I would repeat it until it works. It is a vera problem, no different from all the problems including secure class devices the vera has been struggling with.
              Again, when you do it this way, z-way is no more than an additional device on the vera network and has all the same problems the vera has with secure class devices.

              This sounds logical, but this would be the 5th time then... I am running out of patience...

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                @sender

                Yep, blame vera... I took me over 50 attempts and 3 hours on the phone with support to pair a Yale lock. It also took me hundreds of attempts to pair a vision ZP3111-5 securely. You can probably see in the old place my sharing of experience about secure class inclusion success probability, something that blacey mitigated by rebooting the vera just before the inclusion attempt. This varies a lot with what you have going on in your zwave network. The vera takes patience. Something I ran out of which triggered the migration.

                I also know that you are committed to home assistant as your automation controller. Sorry, I don't have a good answer for it. As you already know, I vastly prefer openLuup for two reasons: 1. I prefer lua 2. Home assistant automation engine is not as powerful and would require node-red to match openLuup's capability as a front end. At that point, why not just run openLuup+z-way and use home assistant for what it is good at: an integration bridge.

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                  @rafale77 Home-assistant is currently the new star in my network... where Vera was just a few weeks ago homeassistant is now... and truly EVERTYTHING IS IN and it works 95-100 time directly... the only PROPER thing missing is a GOOD Z-wave bridge in which Vera as such doesn't do a very bad job at all, weren't it the fact that the z-wave part and device support for that is just not as stable as I want... But on the other hand, the openzwave, zwave2mqtt, QT openzwave (the new beast of hass) and all other "openzwave" falls away with the z-way potential (I have seen)... but the latter is not integrated in homeassistant... so I and completely frustrated here... BTW my entire house is already noded-red... SO SIMPLE!

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                    If this (node-red+homeassistant) is your preferred approach, I would recommend moving to hubitat, there is a custom component for it on home-assistant. It is a much better implementation of zwave and zigbee than vera. Otherwise you will have to wait for the z-way component (which is in the works?). From all my testing, vera has become pretty much the worse zwave implementation available. I am sure there are worse ones but I have not tried them. openzwave is a little better, hubitat is much better and homeseer and z-way are top notch.

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                      Hubitat cloud/subscription-free?

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                        hubitat was created by a few smartThing users who got tired of the obvious misuse and abuse of the cloud so you can see it as a local version of SmartThing. It uses the same language and device drivers along with many of the same concepts.

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                          thanks, will look into. As I see now this is not an "official" integration for homeassistant but a so called custom component...

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                            Is hubitat so new? https://hubitat.com/products It's unbuyable 🙂
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                              Rafale, thanks again. I quit, 7th time. Thanks and maybe speak later. (I may not swear, but be lucky one can't hear me)

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                                I had one, and only gave it away after migrating to z-way as I saw it as a backup solution.
                                For device support, it does not support S2 unlike z-way and homeseer. It uses a mostly community driven device driver development which is shared with SmartThings so it truly supports every device (except S2 ones) unlike the vera and ezlo which rely on a library and forced preset device list. The one controller which really supports everything zwave is Z-way.
                                It also doesn't really support being a secondary controller and has some quirks when setup that way. I know, I tried...

                                It is not new at all, it is actually a couple of years old. I have had mine for at least 2 years.

                                As for the message on the vera about waiting for the name, it is the vera attempting to configure the z-way controller. You can ignore it by setting the z-way device in vera to no auto configure. It is normal by vera standard. What you should see though is the vera device list in z-way.
                                When using two controllers, you should also set the primary as SUC/SIS. (should be device 1, the vera). That way you can use z-way to include devices and you can also run the "request network updates from SUC/SIS" if z-way did not get the device list from the vera.

                                The inclusion process for zwave goes like this (I posted a graph somewhere on this forum too):
                                controller set in include mode -> client device wakeup -> controller adds device to its network list and sends HomeID and DeviceID -> client device gets both IDs, saves them and send ack frame back -> controller sends node info frame (NIF) to device -> client responds with list of supported command classes -> If security is supported controller sends security key exchange frame -> Then device updates neighbor nodes and sends its neighbor list to controller->after it is complete if client is controller, it will send a get network info to controller -> controller responds with list of devices.

                                The vera tends to fail at sending security keys as it hangs there easily so everything behind it will not happen.
                                You can manually force everything to happen except for the security key exchange which... I actually managed to do it by manually inserting the key in the z-way controller and bypass this entire process.

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                                  #34

                                  Thank you, my z-way adventure is over. The Virtual Machine is shutdown.

                                  I will monitor communication around it and if there is a supported home assistant integration I will give it another try.

                                  I just added another zigbee device in my deconz (container in homeassistant) and instantly works... Just want to say, that if z-wave wants to keep seeing the light it should be made stable, by whoever wants to do so (vera, z-way, openzwave)...

                                  Thanks again!

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                                    Curl trouble:

                                    x@x:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu$ sudo apt-get -y install libcurl3
                                    Reading package lists... Done
                                    Building dependency tree
                                    Reading state information... Done
                                    Package libcurl3 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
                                    This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
                                    is only available from another source
                                    However the following packages replace it:
                                      libcurl4
                                    
                                    E: Package 'libcurl3' has no installation candidate
                                    
                                    

                                    ..?

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                                      @PerH

                                      The problem is that libcurl3 is not in the standard repo you have listed.
                                      assuming you are on ubuntu download it from here:

                                      Ubuntu – Error

                                      You need to pick from the correct platform.
                                      wget --url you can paste from the link above--

                                      i.e

                                      wget http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/curl3/libcurl3_7.58.0-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb
                                      

                                      downloading from the norwegian mirror for x64

                                      Then run

                                      dpkg -i libcurl3_7.58.0-2ubuntu2_amd64.deb
                                      

                                      might need sudo authority to install.

                                      Edit: Another idiot way to do it is to not install libcurl3 at all and instead create a symbolic link for libcurl3 to call libcurl4 (That's how I am running mine 🤘 )

                                      sudo ln -s /usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.4 /usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl-gnutls.so.3
                                      
                                      sudo ln -s /usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.4 /usr/local/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcurl.so.3
                                      

                                      Note that you will need to find where your libcurl library was installed. I just gave you the ubuntu location.

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                                        Thanks.
                                        the GUI is up and running now, but i can't update the vendor list, nor start inclusion mode.. any clues?
                                        this funny message is showing in the log..

                                        trying to start inclusion mode:

                                        [2020-09-29 22:29:05.117] [I] [zway] Max number of devices (1) reached
                                        
                                        

                                        trying to update vendor list:

                                        [2020-09-29 22:26:33.433] [I] [core] Notification: error (core): Error has occured during updating the Z-Wave devices list
                                        
                                        

                                        I realize it can be annoying with all these noob questions, can only hope you bear with me. 🙂

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                                          You probably need a license for the uzb (unlike the razberry which has an embedded license).
                                          I though the device limit was 3 without a license but this may have changed.
                                          The license is not required though to update the uzb firmware.

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