The expertUI of Z-way has a very interesting menu called analytics which I have not seen on any other controller.
My engineering curiosity and OCD tendency to want to optimize everything lead me to dig into it to see if I could get things working even better... even though nothing seem to be broken since my move from the UI firmware to z-way. So the background noise menu was of particular interest.
So here it is: This was my first shot of the starting block on the left side of this graph and you can see that at around 21:00 I did something to reduce the noise. My zwave.me uzb is connected to the vera through a usb extension cable and a usb hub but initially the vera and usb hub were sitting only a 6-7 inches (20cm) away from the uzb. Keep in mind the scale on both channels. What I did was to move the vera away from the uzb stick, to about 80cm but the big step was for me to use some metal leftover amazon gift card boxes I had from christmas and covered the usb hub with them. The step back up was me moving these macgyver shields around.
Next step is still goofing around with the shields to see if I could optimize further and while I initially made it worse, you can see that it got a little better later on. That USB hub is quite noisy.
After sometime, I just thought that the whole thing is just too sensitive any movement around that area could potentially cause problems. So I decided to remove the hub connected to the vera which really was just allowing to extroot the vera. Since I am no longer using the vera as a vera but only as a remote serial bridge, which doesn't write anything on its drive, I took it out. Again look closely at the scales. It did take the noise down another notch.
Now the stick is still sitting 14inch away from a UPS with a bunch of wall warts connected to it, powering a variety of devices like a hue 2 hub. I had the idea of replacing just the wall wart (AC-DC power supply) for the vera with a POE splitter. Since channel 2 is already hovering around the detection limit, I am only showing channel 1 here
This last step alone enable me to flip this other statistics menu:
It not only significantly decreased the CRC error rate but also made the foreign network impact greater that the CRC error bar negating the success on reception for the first time. When I took a zniffer to look into what these CRC error frames were, I discovered that they were all from my neighbor's network which is distant and have obviously poor signal strength. (Yes I can see his HomeId from the zniffer). The fact that I see less error means that my controller's range is greater. It is now able to recognize frames which are from my neighbor's instead of saying they are corrupted... Also The back off frames number decreased indicating less wasted/repeated frames on the network.
Hey guys ... I've started creating a Docker container for Z-Way.
I was previously using the Razberry2 but found it a bit slow on my Raspberry Pi 3. I could upgrade to a Raspberry Pi 4 but since I already run a dedicated Linux server and many Docker containers I thought it might make more sense to run Z-Way on there.
This container is based on other containers that are no longer updated: (ruimarinho/docker-z-way) and (EugenMayer/docker-image-zway)
I'd love to hear feedback and any improvements that might be needed.
One thing I want to add immediately is to separate the configuration files from the Docker volume but it looks like Z-Way has several user configuration files/directories?$ZWAY_DIR/config/Configuration.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/Rules.xml $ZWAY_DIR/config/maps $ZWAY_DIR/config/zddx $ZWAY_DIR/automation/user_syscommands $ZWAY_DIR/automation/storage $ZWAY_DIR/automation/userModules $ZWAY_DIR/htdocs/smarthome/user $ZWAY_DIR/config.xml
I have installed my UZB1 stick on my RP4 and want to megrate my device form my Vera to z-way. Now I want to use my Roller shutter 2 in z-way.mev as a scene controller. This is activated by 2x / 3x clicks on the switch. This works perfectly with vera (verabridge) in openluup and reactor using variable LastSceneID and LastScenetime.
When using z-way.me and z-way bridge it works differently. In reactor I see the variable below. I don't know how to use it. Maybe someone else can help me.
Lagging a little here but I just upgraded my z-way-server version and couldn't find much information on their website or even forum.Z-Way builds
What is interesting for the ubuntu/debian version is that it is now released as a .deb package making upgrades much easier. I just downloaded the package and ran:dpkg -i z-way-*.deb
and nothing else. The previous versions required some manual work since it was just a bunch of files for us to overwrite our installations.
From the release note, there could be interesting things for some folks here. It is a pretty long list compared to the previous incremental release.
For all systems backup is a vital part of the long-term usability.
I thought that I describe my set up with Z-way so far. Hopefully others can fill in with their backup thoughts as well. I am sure that there are much more streamlined ways of doing this and hope to learn from you all.
I run Z-way on a Raspberry Pi 3B+ with a daughter RaZberry card. In order to reduce the risk of getting corrupt SD cards I have it running off an SSD. So far this works very well. Setting it up was really easy just reading a standard Raspbian image onto the SSD. The only minor obstacle was that I had to test a few old 2.5" enclosures to find one that the Pi liked.
The Pi is then also powered via an UPS, hopefully this will avoid problems in the event of power outages.
In order to backup Z-way I have so far done manual backups from the regular Smarthome backup & restore function creating .zab files and from the Expert UI creating .zbk files. As far as I have understood the .zab files which are bigger contain more information than the .zbk files. The strategy so far has been to make backup files after each inclusion/exclusion. Also before updating Z-way. I have yet to test restoring from these files.
From Smarthome it is also possible to set up cloud backup. I have not yet set up this as I need to decide that it is safe enough to do so. On the other hand I had this set up on my two Veras.
It would have been nice to be able to schedule a local backup of Z-way instead of having to put them in the cloud, perhaps from OpenLuup via the Z-way bridge?
In addition to the built in backup function I try to do complete image copies of the SD cards on my Pi's with Win32DiskImager. When I moved to an SSD the image file grew to the size of the SSD since it is a raw copy including all the empty space. Image files of 160GB are not practical to handle so I found a good instruction on how to shrink the .img file with Gparted in Linux: https://steemit.com/raspberrypi/@wizzle/shrink-raspberry-pi-images-using-windows-virtualbox-running-raspberry-pi-desktop
By shrinking the .img file with Gparted it is now a more reasonable 4GB. These file are stored on my NAS for safekeeping. The strategy here so far is to make a new image file before updating Z-way and to use these in combination with more frequent Z-way backups.
I have tested restoring a Gparted shrinked .img file to the SSD when my Z-way for some strange reason became unreachable through the regular UI but remained reachable through the Expert UI. Always good to test the restore function and to see that it works. 🙂
The downside of the .img strategy is that I need to power-off the Pi for a while when making the backup. However if the Z-way backup files work then the complete .img backup need not be done so very often.
Have found these videos very informative as a zway(ve) novice ....Z-Wave Network Diagnostics with Z-Way controller Z-Way webinar series: Z-Way Advanced Usage Z-Way webinar series: Introduction to Z-Way Home Automation
Have a number of TKB plug switches (TZ68) that are not reporting to the controller. Believe they should be associated to Z-Way in Group 1 but am not able to get the devices to report groups in the interview/call for NIF process and so there are no associations possible. Thermosat is telling them to come on/off (hurrah!) but they don't report their on/off status in the gui.
In Associations tab: Can not configure associations: groups were not reported by the device. Do interview.
Night and day difference for me. I think I was getting a lot of interference in my media closet. Devices were very slow to respond and sometimes not at all. Switched to UZB and used a USB extender to place it a good 5 ft from the location of my pi. Now things are fast and reliable.
(Solved - presume pijuice hat was upset battery wasn't connected. Took out the plastic protector and UZB now showing. Next - upgrade UZB firmware)
Have I missed something? UZB not showing up in Zway ...
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Then installed Zway from Terminal
wget -q -O - https://storage.z-wave.me/RaspbianInstall | sudo bash
Plugged in UZB
Changed port to /dev/ttyACM0 in menu/apps/ZWave network access in basic UI
This arrived today - hope it has enough juice for the uzb.47.99 GBP PiJuice HAT – A Portable Power Platform For Every Raspberry Pi PiJuice HAT – A Portable Power Platform For Every Raspberry Pi
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Shame the cases are sold out everywhere.
Probably @rafale77 will jump on this question first 😉
I'm using the new model of GE/Jasco switch (they replaced the dead one I got) and the new model is having also S2 security and send instant status update BUT,
And probably @rafale77 will say yes, is it possible that interference can do that I'm missing some instant update status ?
Often, I'm having the wrong status in the zwave.me web interface...and even clicking the icon, the status didn't changed to right one.
I also try to do some "On/Off" using the web interface, and the device itself physically, toggle without a problem, but the web interface is still no correct.
I'm trying to monitor the indicator command class of a 5 button scene controller in Z-Way so openluup can properly create and track it.
seems like Z-Way COMMAND_CLASS_INDICATOR (0x87 or 135) are not being monitored by the ZWave module as I couldn't find anything for this command class in (/z-way-server-path/automation/modules/ZWave/index.js)
When a Get or Set Indicator command class request is sent to the controller. ZSniffer picks up the request and response just fine although this packets are not being monitored by the zwave moduleZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(NodeID,[ Command_Class, Instance, Value ]) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 0x87, 0x01, 0x01 ]) (Hexa) ZWayIP:8083/ZWaveAPI/Run/SendData(2,[ 135, 1, 1 ]) (Decimal)
the answer looks like:[2020-04-24 19:59:36.261] [I] [zway] Waiting for job reply: Indicator Get [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] RECEIVED: ( 01 0B 00 04 00 02 03 87 03 01 B6 00 C2 ) [2020-04-24 19:59:36.281] [D] [zway] SENT ACK
I’d like to store the Indicator response “RECEIVED” correctly. I believe by modifying the index.js of the zwave module could do the trick and once the module start tracking the indicator command class values as a metric then openluup's z-way plugin would properly track any changes as well.
I'm wondering if anyone around here could share any thoughts or comments that could make it easier...
Posting here, as the z-wave.me forum seems desolated..
I have two multisensor 6 sensors, and one of them is not sending motion sensor updates?
Looking at the configuration, they are both registered as battery sensors for som reason, even if they are USB powered. They respond quickly to parameter changes, except for parameter 100 and 110, that will not update.
Any clues? How do i convince the controller that they are USB powered?
First Post . . .
Good to "see" y'all here!
Last week, I purchased the Z-Wave.me UZB1 dongle and also purchased the Z-Way license.
Knowing in advance that the combination (Windows 10 and the Z-Way server) was lacking, I wanted to install anyway on a Windows 10 machine, and include a few spare z-wave devices to see how things worked. Pretty well, for the most part.
@rafale77 had written that the UZB stick works well in the RPi compared to the RaZberry card (which I also purchased but is still in it's packaging), I would like to plug this UZB1 into my Pi running openLuup/ALTUI (then hopefully installing the Z-Way plugin)
I'm not confident enough yet to plug the UZB into my Vera3 (UI5) and transfer my existing z-wave devices to the stick.
Without creating a new Buster image downloaded from Z-Way, could I possibly . . .Plug the UZB1 into the Buster Pi3 From the terminal, run, wget -q -O - razberry.z-wave.me/install | sudo bash
then, if I can reach the :8083 port (as quoted by PoltoS) "go to Settings -> Apps -> Active -> ZWave and change /dev/ttyAMA0 to /dev/ttyACM0"
and expect that my UZB1 will now run on the Pi ?
If it is mostly that simple, would my license transfer?
Should I exclude the (3) z-wave devices I had running on the Windows 10 Z-Way server first?
If I'm oversimplifying, tell me to "shut up" and read some more! 😕
I seems to still have some issues in the z-wave controller..
The route map won't show, only throws an error message:
This Link status map is way too grey:
The neighbour map looks OK, most have 2 or more neighbours:
All units except for one seems to work as usual though, and thats the garage door sensor.. No errors reported, but no reaction either..
And the fibaros all complain with system and heat errors, which i know is unfounded.,
Any suggestions on where to look? I started a full reorganization of the mesh now, not sure what it does, but it seemed like a good thing to do..
External antenna on razberry board
@rafale77 Do you think it could be possible and will increase the "performance" to install an external antenna on the board?
Ah, this used to be all the rage with Vera a while ago. There may, strangely, be some useful post there.
(I won’t get banned for mentioning that, will I?)
I did get some stick back in 2013 for suggesting that it was probably against FCC rules...
On the razberry, yes, changing the antenna will improve things. The PCB antenna is below average and the uzb is actually much better, being a coil type antenna. Changing the antenna on the razberry requires breaking off the PCB antenna off the board and some soldering job...
And yeah FCC compliance becomes a problem...
It seems as if it is possible to modify it with an external antenna.
Here is an article on how to modify the Razberry2 EU:
Modify Razberry2 (translated)
Is is in Swedish, hopefully the translated text is understandable.
In short you cut away the built-in antenna and solder on an antenna connector for the external antenna. You of course need an antenna for the frequency in your country, the article is for 868 MHz (EU).
I will do it for sure!
Just need to find an antenna on Internet for the US band
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How much range do you need? My NotVera is in the server cupboard on the 3rd floor. The most distant devices are in the garage about 30 ft horizontally and those three floors vertically. No communications issues that I can see at all.
Just curious is all
@CatmanV2 got some stuff "outside". The NotVera is in the middle of the main floor and trying to reach correctly stuff outside in the "shed", so that's 75 feet and I'm having a couple of stuff inside that are having a hard time too like in the basement.
I think that I have a little bit too much of interference around here!
That’s why I ended up with multiple Veras, although I’m now back down to just the one (other technologies now in play.)
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@DesT Easy 75ft from my NotVera to the gear in the garage. It's going through a brick wall at an acute angle as well....
Still, I had to install Ubiquit wifi a couple of weeks back. Got so hacked off with getting 1M sitting on top of the AP in the lounge hanging off a 200M cable connection.
Have to say the Ubiquiti stuff is barking. Setup can be intimidating if you're not a tech but I figure it took me about 3 minutes. 150M now. The AP is on the ground floor, in the 3rd floor office I get a rock solid 40M.
The only reason I'd get another is that my POS Canon printer moans that there's too much interference. Even though it'll ping away quite happily :<
@CatmanV2 I'm a Ubiquity fan since a while, we installed that everywhere!
At home, I have 4 AP-HD, one per floor and one outside in the shed to cover the backyard!
Funny, I de-unified just in the past three months and couldn't be happier. ubiquiti, I sensed is going the "vera style" adding more and more useless junk in the controller, creating overhead and unnecessary interdependencies and degraded performance I got fed up with.
As you know, I am very hardware and semiconductor oriented and found out that many of the unifi devices are obsolete cheap hardware with a pretty UI and very well designed controller. Performance is often very poor but lately (past 2 years) it's been degrading with an overfocus on bling bling marketing and dubious advertising instead of products and performance. I saw a lot of nonsensical products being released (why a 4x4 wifi6 AP with a gigabit uplink for example?)
I upgraded my home network to 10G/5G infrastructure, and cut the cost of the whole installation by 50% by reselling all my ubiquiti stuff while doubling my wifi performance and coverage and no longer having to constantly tinker with my network... So not a fan of unifi any more.
As for noise for zwave, you can probably monitor it... a lot of devices unfortunately emit RF noise.
I can share my spreadsheet and your mileage may vary on the savings depending on your installation. I have a pretty large installation so...
For APs, I moved to wifi6 using the Engenius EWS377AP which has a 2.5G uplink. Got 3 for $200 each and I discovered they doubled speed and coverage allowing to use one less than unifi UAP-AC-HD/SHD/XG of which I had for and priced ranged from $300-$750.
US XG6-POE ($599) with a Zyxel XS1930-12HP ($999) but double the number of ports, POE capacity and half the problems.
USW-24Pro-POE ($699) with Netgear MS510TXPP ($260)
US8-60W ($120) with Zyxel GS1200-8HP ($54) (for areas not needing multigig)
US8-150W ($200) with Netgear MS5120TXPP($260)
I reused all of my wiring which is ~20y old CAT5 but of good quality. Probably better than most cheap CAT8 being sold out there (pure copper, low gauge, STP)
Covd19 work from home situation has accelerated this upgrade along with gigabit internet...